[lukeap69]

Oh geez, I never thought of that.

I can clear up some space on my kitchen then if I replaced my PM-2 with EL-8...

 

[lukeap69]

Darko's impression of EL-8 with comparison with PM-2 & HD650
http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2015/02/audeze-el-8-headphones-first-impressions-and-comparisons/

 

[ocelot2500]

Hi all,
 
I have been looking into a new set of headphones with laid-back treble and full mids, so the oppos popped up on my radar. 
 
I have a question though, how do these fit on smaller heads?  For reference, I own the HE-400s and ATH-M50s.  The M50s fit fine, but the HE-400s they are a bit too big for my head.  I have to be fairly still while wearing the 400s, and I would like to avoid this in my next set of headphones.

 

[Pwn3r4Life]

  Hi all,
 
I have been looking into a new set of headphones with laid-back treble and full mids, so the oppos popped up on my radar. 
 
I have a question though, how do these fit on smaller heads?  For reference, I own the HE-400s and ATH-M50s.  The M50s fit fine, but the HE-400s they are a bit too big for my head.  I have to be fairly still while wearing the 400s, and I would like to avoid this in my next set of headphones.

I own the HE-400 and have to wear it on the absolute smallest setting in order for it to fit right. For the Oppo PM-2, which I demoed for a week, I wore it with 4-5 clicks of length extension on each side. I briefly demoed the M50 at a Head-Fi meet and I think the sizing for me was 2 clicks on each side, but take this one with a grain of salt because that was a while ago.
 
I very highly doubt that you will have an issue with the PM-2 being too large for your head. But they currently are doing a loaner program through the forum and that is the best way to find out if you like them.
 
Let me know if you have any other questions! I really enjoy my HE-400 and I enjoyed the PM-2, but they are different sounding headphones indeed.

 

[lukeap69]

will probably suit you better. I have small head as well and I prefer the comfort of PM-2 compared to HD800 which is opposite with many...

 

[wgb113]

just signed up for the loaner program since my local dealer will only bring in the PM-1.


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[ocelot2500]

Thanks for the responses.  Sounds like the oppos check another box for me.
 
 

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Let me know if you have any other questions! I really enjoy my HE-400 and I enjoyed the PM-2, but they are different sounding headphones indeed.

I like the HE-400s too, but the treble just kills me.  Vocals also feel distant on it, and I really only use it for bass heavy stuff nowadays. With that said, I am looking for a different sound signature.  The full-bodied and laid-back nature of the PM-2 appeals to me.
 
 

 

[Pwn3r4Life]

  I like the HE-400s too, but the treble just kills me.  Vocals also feel distant on it, and I really only use it for bass heavy stuff nowadays. With that said, I am looking for a different sound signature.  The full-bodied and laid-back nature of the PM-2 appeals to me.
 
 

The treble is awful for me as well, with the velour pads on. As soon as I put the pleathers on, the treble becomes acceptable and the bass really fills in. Have you tried pad rolling and/or modding? All of Hifiman's stuff is very responsive to small tweaks.
 
I'd try the "fuzzor" mod by Jerg, which will decrease backwave response, thus improving clarity, and tame the treble. While taming the backwaves is the primary focus of this mod, if you smush the foam less, you can absorb some of the treble. As a bonus, you don't need to open the headphones, it is fully reversible, and is really cheap.
 
I never found the mids to be distant on the HE-400, and I'm usually sensitive to that. That said, the Oppo's mids are so intimate, full, and lush. I think that you'll love them.

 

[ocelot2500]

  The treble is awful for me as well, with the velour pads on. As soon as I put the pleathers on, the treble becomes acceptable and the bass really fills in. Have you tried pad rolling and/or modding? All of Hifiman's stuff is very responsive to small tweaks.
 
I'd try the "fuzzor" mod by Jerg, which will decrease backwave response, thus improving clarity, and tame the treble. While taming the backwaves is the primary focus of this mod, if you smush the foam less, you can absorb some of the treble. As a bonus, you don't need to open the headphones, it is fully reversible, and is really cheap.
 
I never found the mids to be distant on the HE-400, and I'm usually sensitive to that. That said, the Oppo's mids are so intimate, full, and lush. I think that you'll love them.

I tried some small mods, but part of the problem is the type of music I have been listening to lately, mostly punk/hardcore/emo stuff.  A lot of it is treble heavy, and some of the recordings are not the best quality.  I think the other part of the problem is that my ears are just drawn to the bass.
 
I don't expect the PM-2 to all of a sudden make everything better, but I do hope they tame some of the problem treble.  I also would like to use them with certain styles such as Bossa Nova where there is a focus on soft vocals and guitar.
 
Likely, I will be buying the PM-2 soon.  I am just waiting out the release/review of the EL-8 and PM-3 to see if they also sound appealing to me before I pull the trigger.

 

[onlychild]

Can someone please let me know if the HD700 connectors work with the PM-1/PM-2s.
 
I know the Oppo's have a groove in the connecter that helps them "lock" into the the headphone, but the HD700 connectors don't have this groove.  Does this cause them to unplug easily?
 
 
Thanks

 

[HasturTheYellow]

I would guess it would work, as Double Helix has the following connector which are explicitly listed for HD700 and PM-1 use.

 

[mtkupp]

  Can someone please let me know if the HD700 connectors work with the PM-1/PM-2s.
 
I know the Oppo's have a groove in the connecter that helps them "lock" into the the headphone, but the HD700 connectors don't have this groove.  Does this cause them to unplug easily?
 
 
Thanks

I've used my HD700 cable with my PM-2 with no issue. I don't move around a lot with them on though.

 

[dcginc]

Ok, I'm in 'the club' now. Just purchased a pair of PM-2s. Using them with my iFi Micro DSD connected to my 6 plus. 

Also have a custom built USB cable A male to A female by http://www.elijahaudio.com using Audience OCC cryo treated copper wrapped in a red cotton sleeve, quad braid design. This allows me to get rid of iFi's USB dongle thing. The cable needs about 100 hrs to break in so I'm a ways from that as I just got it. Still, TiDAL and FLAC files sound great.

How long do the Oppos need, if any to break in? As an owner of 40 year old Yamaha planar/orthos, I am looking forward to the natual sound of the PM-2s. They sound great out of the box!

 

[Robert777]

Could someone comment on the pm-2's sound leakage for me please?
 
I have read that the pm-1's and pm-2's do not leak as much as some other open headphones but they are still open.
 
If I was to be listening to the headphones at a moderate volume in my living room, how likely would I be to disturb my wife sleeping in the next room?

 

[jh7000]

I doubt your wife would hear you in the next room.  I find that at moderate listening levels, I can barely hear them more than a few feet away. I think you would need them to be quite loud before someone in the next room could hear what you are listening to.