Onkyo DP-CMX1 GRANBEAT | Dual Dac | Balanced | Phone DAP

[addyg]

have you guys seen this phone's full spec? 

is this a dual DAC phone? and does it have dual micro SD slot? 


that would be just perfect... I hope they made it dual dac & dual micro SD so we can carry tons of music on this phone

phileweb released the detail so it should be from Onkyo.

dual dac
5 inch LCD
3.5/2.5

 

[addyg]

For price I will guess in the 800-900 range.

 

[Designer12]

phileweb released the detail so it should be from Onkyo.

dual dac
5 inch LCD
3.5/2.5

and does this come with dual micro SD just like DP-X1??
 
I really hope they made it..
 
All smartphones come with only one...

 

[sfoxy]

I need a release date!

 

[addyg]

and does this come with dual micro SD just like DP-X1??

I really hope they made it..

All smartphones come with only one...

It has dual sim card but only one micro SD slot.

 

[Designer12]

It has dual sim card but only one micro SD slot.

That sucks.... only one microSD... so you can get max 128GB + 256GB.  about 380GB..
I hope they fix that in final version so we can carry 128GB + 512GB. 
or they should offer 256GB model just like other smartphone companies. Asus ZenFone AR comes with 24bit DAC and 256GB internal storage on top of a micro SD card slot.
 
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-AR-ZS571KL/

 

[mediabox]

A hands-on review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7jTMVy_Y6k
 
Two DACs http://www.esstech.com/index.php/en/products/sabre-digital-analog-converters/sabre-hifi-mobile-dacs/sabre-hifi-stereo-dacs/es9018k2m/
 
Two amp 

ESS Sabre 9601K.
 

MQA and DSD capable.
 

Made in China

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Price Y80K = $700 to be launched initially only in Japan unlocked and sim-free. 
 

Specs http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ideal2ch/imgs/6/9/69fd6494.jpg
 

 
Google translation from a Japanese blog:
 
"Onkyo presented a high res responding smartphone that has been revealed for some time at CES 2017. There was no model number yet, it was introduced with the provisional name "HI-RES SMARTPHONE" (Information on whether it is a model number called DP-CMX1 has also been out earlier). Release date and career are undecided.
ESS Saber ES 9018 K 2 M in the DAC chip and 9601 K in the amplifier, and it is a major feature that it corresponds to balance drive of the earphone with the dual configuration.
Also, as a smartphone, it is important to cooperate with Fujitsu Connected Technology which has a proven track record in smartphone development. Looking at the exhibits, it looks like an existing DAP, DP-X1A, similar in design to a thin type. Functions also have more in common. Body size is 72.1 (width) × 142.3 (height) × 11.95 (thickness) mm. Weight is 234 g. As a difference from the DP-X1 in appearance, by changing the position of the volume dial from the side to the back, a slim casing is realized. Battery capacity is 3,000 mAh.
Dual SIM slot installed. There is no excuse for the function as a smartphone such as installing 8 mega at the front and 16 megapixel camera at the rear. Specifications such as corresponding frequency of 3G / 4G are not published.
The OS is Android, it also supports Google Play (Android 6.0.1 on exhibition machine). It also has Bluetooth & Wi-Fi function. With one microSD card slot, it can be expanded to a maximum capacity of 384 GB, together with 128 GB of the main body.
Equipped with 5 inch touch screen. The body is machined aluminum.
Supported file formats are WAV, FLAC, DAD, MQA. For high-resolution sound source reproduction, use the same "Onkyo music application" as DAP "DP-X1" made by the company. When playing with this, it supports even 11.2 MHz DSD format and 24 bit output. For non-high resolution sound source, it is output with 24 bits by using the same application. Sounds of other applications are basically Android standard 16 bit output.
In addition to the 3.5 mm remote control compatible earphone jack (4 poles), the main unit is equipped with 2.5 mm diameter 4 pole earphone jack for balance driving, and it corresponds to balanced headphone drive.
There are no models that stick to the performance and sound quality as DAP so far, and the one equipped with balanced headphone jack is the world first.
However, it is unknown how the user actually receives it. A smartphone user who wants to emphasize sound quality and a passive DAP enthusiast for integration with smartphones with sound quality from the beginning. It would be real intention to incorporate both, but what will happen?
Moreover, it is inevitable to say that unification of the balanced headphone terminal intended by Sony to 4.4 mm diameter is getting more and more distant. I am also wondering if this tampering disorder affects the movement of integrating portable audio and smartphone."

 

[Designer12]

Great...

It looks very modern. Now what matters is battery life.
Even $80 HTC smartphone now comes with 10 hour battery life.

I hope they made something comparable at least.

 

[addyg]

A hands-on review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7jTMVy_Y6k

Two DACs http://www.esstech.com/index.php/en/products/sabre-digital-analog-converters/sabre-hifi-mobile-dacs/sabre-hifi-stereo-dacs/es9018k2m/

Two amp [COLOR=333333]ESS Sabre 9601K.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=333333]MQA and DSD capable.[/COLOR]

[COLOR=333333]Made in China[/COLOR] [COLOR=333333].[/COLOR]

[COLOR=333333]Price Y80K = $700 to be launched initially only in Japan unlocked and sim-free. [/COLOR]

[COLOR=333333]Specs http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/ideal2ch/imgs/6/9/69fd6494.jpg[/COLOR]




Google translation from a Japanese blog:

"Onkyo presented a high res responding smartphone that has been revealed for some time at CES 2017. There was no model number yet, it was introduced with the provisional name "HI-RES SMARTPHONE" (Information on whether it is a model number called DP-CMX1 has also been out earlier). Release date and career are undecided.
ESS Saber ES 9018 K 2 M in the DAC chip and 9601 K in the amplifier, and it is a major feature that it corresponds to balance drive of the earphone with the dual configuration.
Also, as a smartphone, it is important to cooperate with Fujitsu Connected Technology which has a proven track record in smartphone development. Looking at the exhibits, it looks like an existing DAP, DP-X1A, similar in design to a thin type. Functions also have more in common. Body size is 72.1 (width) × 142.3 (height) × 11.95 (thickness) mm. Weight is 234 g. As a difference from the DP-X1 in appearance, by changing the position of the volume dial from the side to the back, a slim casing is realized. Battery capacity is 3,000 mAh.
Dual SIM slot installed. There is no excuse for the function as a smartphone such as installing 8 mega at the front and 16 megapixel camera at the rear. Specifications such as corresponding frequency of 3G / 4G are not published.
The OS is Android, it also supports Google Play (Android 6.0.1 on exhibition machine). It also has Bluetooth & Wi-Fi function. With one microSD card slot, it can be expanded to a maximum capacity of 384 GB, together with 128 GB of the main body.
Equipped with 5 inch touch screen. The body is machined aluminum.
Supported file formats are WAV, FLAC, DAD, MQA. For high-resolution sound source reproduction, use the same "Onkyo music application" as DAP "DP-X1" made by the company. When playing with this, it supports even 11.2 MHz DSD format and 24 bit output. For non-high resolution sound source, it is output with 24 bits by using the same application. Sounds of other applications are basically Android standard 16 bit output.
In addition to the 3.5 mm remote control compatible earphone jack (4 poles), the main unit is equipped with 2.5 mm diameter 4 pole earphone jack for balance driving, and it corresponds to balanced headphone drive.
There are no models that stick to the performance and sound quality as DAP so far, and the one equipped with balanced headphone jack is the world first.
However, it is unknown how the user actually receives it. A smartphone user who wants to emphasize sound quality and a passive DAP enthusiast for integration with smartphones with sound quality from the beginning. It would be real intention to incorporate both, but what will happen?
Moreover, it is inevitable to say that unification of the balanced headphone terminal intended by Sony to 4.4 mm diameter is getting more and more distant. I am also wondering if this tampering disorder affects the movement of integrating portable audio and smartphone."

Great!

 

[mediabox]

I want one now! I am not a big fan of carrying numerous pieces of metal around. These external DACs are all sound crutches one way or another when used with mobile phones no matter how good they are for a computer. I used to own iFi Nano, Mojo and HRT-dSp for different purposes. In this case, I prefer a hi-fi company to cooperate with a mobile one, rather than the other way around. Mostly, the mobile manufactures do not know how to deal with the sound and everything we have in this area is a big experiment at our expense.  Allelujah!

 

[addyg]

Rumour price: 91580 yen

 

[addyg]

e-earphones listed it.

 

[mediabox]

 
Onkyo's Russian site quotes Y80K.

 

[mediabox]

Released.
 
Yen 84,800  = $743 without tax
 
On sale late February
 

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http://onkyodirect.jp/pc/shop/g/gDPCMX1B/

 

[mediabox]

I think in the light of the Japanese release the tread's name has to be changed.