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[pne]

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Originally Posted by Kirosia Wow, I wondered why this thread was getting so big. It appears to be childhood memory ranting time! In regards to "intellectual elitists", I despise the majority of them. (I don't mean you 450) They were always snobby bastards IME who used their "individuality" to act like they were somebody important. If you're smart fine, but no one else gives a damn. I was a friggin genius compared to your avg kid up to 8th grade, and I acted like an arse. Nobody liked me so I felt obligated to act like a bigger idiot. "Telling" people you're intelligent does not get you brownie points. People like this ask to get bullied, in a way. The only good thing about the smart kids were the girls. I knew a bunch of them, and they were freaky on the inside. And in regards to bullies, I bet some of you guys are over exaggerating quite a bit. When I was in elementary/middle school, I was treated like a piece of crap. My parents were fobs, my clothes were cheap, and I was a short. I remember in 5/6 grade Somebody actually kicked me off a bus seat "with malice". I've been jumped by a group of guys, punched, kicked, blah blah blah. I used to come home crying on the inside, blaming everything and everyone. I've dealt with the toughest bullies in school, and I don't mean wasps. Gangbangers, jocks, street-biker types, were my enemies. And I had no one to back me up. High school, my foes were skinheads, racist jocks, teachers, etc. My school was so packed that there would be bloody fight almost every day. By this time, I became pretty tough and well-respected by my peers. I almost went 10 on 10 in cafeteria brawl between me and my boys and some rich skinheads who were armed (these guys were known racists), and had the establishment on their side. And my experience is jack s**t compared to other people who've had it much, much tougher. So count your blessings. Be a man (or women) damnit. And finally, in regards to "wussies". What the hell is wrong with you guys? Don't you have any backbone? I'm tired of your types b**ching about getting picked on, yet you don't do anything about it. (I don't mean projectile weapons or anything) Stand up, use your fists if you have to. If you're small or skinny, so what? I've met plenty of weaklings who could hold their ground. From my experience, its the quiet wussy types that talk the most s**t but never back it up. Seriously, either deal with it, or go home.

Whew, someone has a lot of venting to do huh? I have a very similar attitude towards life. If you are getting picked on you really do need to stand up for yourself, because noone else will. At times I really hated school too. In elementry I felt like everyone hated me or was jealous that I was smart. When the teacher asked the class a question the only hand that enthusiastically shot up was mine, and I've actually been told by fellow classmates "put your hand down you geek". There was also an occasion where the subsitute teacher asked us to read a short story in class, and i finished it 5 minutes before she did. I told her i was finished and she accused me of lying and sent me out of class because 'there was no way I could finish the book before her' What she didn't know was that I loved reading and went through an average of 40 books a week. My libary card was always maxed out. But after that incident I dropped reading and have not really picked it back up since.


My point is there will always be people who are malicious or jealous because of your abilities. That's human nature. Just don't let this affect you from developing your intellect because you are only stooping to their level. The way I deal with it is just try be modest, and observe/take note of these "less intelligent" people, but do not bring it up as to patronize them. Realize there will always be people smarter than you that are scrutinizing you just like you are scrutinizing the 'idiots' or 'cretins' around you. Another thing is, I never make a point to push my reasoning on to people no matter how logical it is and how clearly wrong they are. Sometimes you just can't teach a dumb person logic!

for example, when I first got into headfi, I told several of my friends about it. None of them were interested in spending so much on goofy looking headphones, even after hearing the differences. So I dropped it. Until one day at school when a friend started laughing at my grado's because they looked funny. She asked me how much they cost. I told her 100 bucks, and her shocked response-"woah. why would you spend so much on just headphones?" My response to her was "Why would you spend $400 on a mp3 player and listen through a pair of earbuds worth $5"

 

[Jahn]

BTW gang my friend is a high school teach, and he breaks up fights every day. The crap that goes on in School should NOT be going on in school. fights on school grounds just should not happen - and if the teachers dont put the smack down quick on ones that happen right in front of them (cafeteria) shame on them. you dont goto school to rumble - you go to learn. that crap should not be happening. why the hell are there metal detectors at school now? what the hell is going on? ok that's my rant.


btw my school had its share of bullies, but no one was ever packing heat.

 

[apnk]

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Originally Posted by Jahn BTW gang my friend is a high school teach, and he breaks up fights every day. The crap that goes on in School should NOT be going on in school. fights on school grounds just should not happen - and if the teachers dont put the smack down quick on ones that happen right in front of them (cafeteria) shame on them. you dont goto school to rumble - you go to learn. that crap should not be happening. why the hell are there metal detectors at school now? what the hell is going on? ok that's my rant. btw my school had its share of bullies, but no one was ever packing heat.

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[pne]

thats right. No kid should feel unsafe going to school. People who bring weapons to school have the sole intention of harming someone else with that weapon. Luckily at our school system, anyone who is caught with any type of weapon is immediately recommended for expulsion.

I just went back and read through some of the filler posts. Aeriyn's post really hit me hard, I have never heard of something that brutal and mallicious happening at a school before. I feel really lucky I have never been bullied to that extent. A group of guys who would beat a girl and leave her half naked in the cold belong to the lowest human scum alive in this world, and frankly should be in jail.

450 if you are having problems being bullied, the only way to stop this is to stick up for yourself. Unlike what you've been told, the establishment will do little to help you a lot of times. The only way to get respect is to earn it. It also seems there is a notion in this thread that bully gets worse when it escalates to physical violence. This is NOT true, emotional and psychological damage can be far worse. One should not have to wait until he/she is attacked before the situtation is serious enough to take action.

I am going to tell you a story of one of my friends who also got bullied around in our school. Everyone seemed to pick on him, even the nerds and losers joined in to feel big. One day another unpopular kid started making fun of him. This escalated into a violence and the poor kid was getting beaten in the hallway amist shouting and jeering from the students. This kid was scrawny and tiny and was really getting pounded, but he did not cower or curl up to accept this beating. He took it like a man and swung back, knowing he could not win. When the bully saw this you could see the fear creeping into him, because he was not expecting any retalliation. A lot of the kids who had a level head on their shoulders, including me, simply couldn't ignore the fight anymore. So we stepped in to help him and break it up. After that, almost noone bullied him again, and if by chance some moron did, our group of friends never let them hear the end of it. Standing up yourself, your beliefs, and your right to exist takes a lot of courage, but it is the only way to command respect. If you are nervous about your size or build, there are always improvements you can do such as learning a martial art or lifting weights. My friend used to be overweight and insecure too, one summer of dedication at the gym and he literally exploded into a new person/physique.

 

[Kirosia]

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Originally Posted by pne Whew, someone has a lot of venting to do huh? I have a very similar attitude towards life. If you are getting picked on you really do need to stand up for yourself, because noone else will. At times I really hated school too. In elementry I felt like everyone hated me or was jealous that I was smart. When the teacher asked the class a question the only hand that enthusiastically shot up was mine, and I've actually been told by fellow classmates "put your hand down you geek". There was also an occasion where the subsitute teacher asked us to read a short story in class, and i finished it 5 minutes before she did. I told her i was finished and she accused me of lying and sent me out of class because 'there was no way I could finish the book before her' What she didn't know was that I loved reading and went through an average of 40 books a week. My libary card was always maxed out. But after that incident I dropped reading and have not really picked it back up since. My point is there will always be people who are malicious or jealous because of your abilities. That's human nature. Just don't let this affect you from developing your intellect because you are only stooping to their level. The way I deal with it is just try be modest, and observe/take note of these "less intelligent" people, but do not bring it up as to patronize them. Realize there will always be people smarter than you that are scrutinizing you just like you are scrutinizing the 'idiots' or 'cretins' around you. Another thing is, I never make a point to push my reasoning on to people no matter how logical it is and how clearly wrong they are. Sometimes you just can't teach a dumb person logic! for example, when I first got into headfi, I told several of my friends about it. None of them were interested in spending so much on goofy looking headphones, even after hearing the differences. So I dropped it. Until one day at school when a friend started laughing at my grado's because they looked funny. She asked me how much they cost. I told her 100 bucks, and her shocked response-"woah. why would you spend so much on just headphones?" My response to her was "Why would you spend $400 on a mp3 player and listen through a pair of earbuds worth $5"

I only posted that cause I'm tired of hearing people who think they have it real bad, even though they don't. So please don't insinuate I'm "venting". Don''t quote my post if you think I'm b**ching about something.

People "think" they have it sooooo bad, even though they live in a nice middle-class home with family and friends that love them. Not to mention all the things that come with money. You (people in general) want to see bad? Come and live in ghetto city in the USA. While being colored and poor. Then tell me if you still think you got it bad. Seriously.

And the students in my city are often arrested for drugs, weapons, death threaths, blah blah blah. If you went to Lynn Tech . . . whoa you better have a coffin ready.

Standing up is very important, but pick your battles. If you know the guy is gonna try and gut you for talking back, don't. I know guys that'll beat you down on the spot. (including me once)

 

[Jahn]

Kirosia, remind me never to talk back to you. I'd hate to get beat down on the spot. *hides in the safety of the internet*

 

[philodox]

I've been on both sides of the bully/nerd fence and each is equally scary. The people that feel the need to take out their anger on those weaker than them are going through rough stuff too... and they have to live with the knowledge of what they have done later in life once they smarten up.

I used to daily beat the living **** out of this one poor kid in middle school. I then started taking karate and saw a different outlet for my frustrations and was introduced to a new mindset and discipline. My grades started rising and I turned into a pacifist.

In Highschool I was picked on quite a bit due to my grades and slightly superior attitude. It got to the point where they pushed me too far and I exploded... that only happened once. After that I was sort of left alone.

Once I started getting a social life and relaxed a bit I realised how much of a pompous ass I was and as a result I now try to keep my ego in check.

So I have sympathy for all sides of this viscious circle that is adolecence. My advice is relax and try to enjoy yourself. Critical examination of your own flaws is the only way that you will learn to understand the actions of others.

EDIT: I still am basically a pacifist. I've grown a pretty thick skin and now that my social skills have improved I can pretty much talk myself out of any situation. Mess with someone I care for though and you had better watch out!

 

[Kirosia]

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Originally Posted by Jahn Kirosia, remind me never to talk back to you. I'd hate to get beat down on the spot. *hides in the safety of the internet*

Don't worry Jahn, I rarely get physical nowadays. Course a few months ago I almost jumped out the car and beat the crap outta of a guy in front of his son (and a bunch of elementary school kids) for using a racist comment towards my father, but I let it go. (I *hate* unwarranted racist comments) Mr. angry asian guy is dormant for the time being. I wouldn't fight you Jahn unless you really got me mad, I mean if you came out of nowhere and started using slurs or something, then . . . Besides, I'm usually against brown on brown violence.

 

[Jahn]

Yeah, the racial slur thing gets me going bad - but for the most part I've gotten a thick skin from living in a predominantly White state (yeah, not neighborhood - STATE.) It was funny going to college and seeing all the PC folks with such thin skins - yes, crap out there is wrong, but if you don't pick your battles you're going to be a hypersensitive reactionary all your life. I was just imagining what some of my classmates would do in the "real world" - for the most part College can be as sheltered as you want it to be, but once you're out there in the workforce you get what you get. Oh, and living in NYC too I've found. You get a "ching chong" catcall once a week just walking to and from work in my area - eh, let them have their giggles.

 

[Kirosia]

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Originally Posted by Jahn Yeah, the racial slur thing gets me going bad - but for the most part I've gotten a thick skin from living in a predominantly White state (yeah, not neighborhood - STATE.) It was funny going to college and seeing all the PC folks with such thin skins - yes, crap out there is wrong, but if you don't pick your battles you're going to be a hypersensitive reactionary all your life. I was just imagining what some of my classmates would do in the "real world" - for the most part College can be as sheltered as you want it to be, but once you're out there in the workforce you get what you get. Oh, and living in NYC too I've found. You get a "ching chong" catcall once a week just walking to and from work in my area - eh, let them have their giggles.

My skin actually got thinner then thicker I think. I used to hang out with mostly caucasians (who I now realize made me feel like crap cause I was dark and poor), now I'm with mostly minorities and some lower-class white. They're in the same boat as me so it's easier to relate. I can't stand blatant racists, but I let it go most of time now. My friends, on the other hand, wouldn't be so merciful. Funny thing, in high school once, one kid did the "ching chong" thing to me, and I gave him and his friends a really dirty look. The guy never said anything like that again after.

 

[pne]

Kirosia, my quote had no intention of making it seem like you were b**ching, i was just agreeing with your comments and making a little lighthearted poke. I understand where you're coming from. I'm asian as well and have gotten a few of those ching chong taunts myself. That is one thing that makes my blood boil. Once I was working in my yard when two 12-14 year old boys rode by and yelled that out while snickering. It makes you really wonder how parents are raising kids these days. I really had to keep myself in check and remind myself i'd probably be charged for taking any physical action.

 

[KR...]

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Originally Posted by gsferrari I might end up working for BOSE so i'll just keep my mouth shut

If that doesn't get you banned then nothing will

I went to one of the worst highschools in the US, so be happy you don't go there.

 

[Kirosia]

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Originally Posted by pne Kirosia, my quote had no intention of making it seem like you were b**ching, i was just agreeing with your comments and making a little lighthearted poke. I understand where you're coming from. I'm asian as well and have gotten a few of those ching chong taunts myself. That is one thing that makes my blood boil. Once I was working in my yard when two 12-14 year old boys rode by and yelled that out while snickering. It makes you really wonder how parents are raising kids these days. I really had to keep myself in check and remind myself i'd probably be charged for taking any physical action.

My apologies.

I know where you're coming from. Just how it is in North America.

I do remember once incident that bothered me quite a bit. My own caucasian friends (at the time) demeaned me in front of some girls freshman year, just to get points with them. You know, using certain negative asian stereotypes. I only knew these guys for a few months. I played along, but now I understand that they were being arseholes. I stick mostly to my own kind now, don't know if that makes me a bad person or not.

(okay, now I really am b**ching, gotta stop or I'll be even more of a hypocrite

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[RYCeT]

Guys, pls consider yourself lucky being an asian in US or Canada. If you want to b*tch, try to be a chinese in Indonesia. You'll learn the new level of discrimination and racial slur

 

[Kirosia]

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Originally Posted by RYCeT Guys, pls consider yourself lucky being an asian in US or Canada. If you want to b*tch, try to be a chinese in Indonesia. You'll learn the new level of discrimination and racial slur

Like I said, whenever you think you have it bad, there'll always be someone else who has it worse.

And rycet, you must have it much worse than us. That sucks.