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No difference between 128 and 320.

Discussion in 'Sound Science' started by xinze, Sep 21, 2012.
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  1. yepimonfire
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    i have yet to hear MP3 in 128kbps that wasn't clearly inferior to a higher bitrate. Perhaps with some of the better algorithms it's possible. OGG and AAC do a pretty good job of fooling me at 128k
     
  2. bigshot
    I think folks are talking about LAME.
     
  3. lovleylady
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    First, are we talking about Linkin Park?
    Second, how do you tell that something is badly recorded rather than the artist/mixer intending it to sound in a way you happen not to like?
    I guess I get it with Adele, sounds like crap, hard to believe that's wanted.
     
    But with music like Linkin Park's, distortion might be wanted?
    I'd like to say they are just notoriously bad.
     
    Cheers!
     
  4. bigshot
    Intentionally poorly recorded is still poorly recorded, isn't it?
     
  5. lovleylady
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    http://mp3ornot.com/badge/178670.png
     
    It's mine, I got the feel for how long it took for the 320 to load vs the 128.
     
    I really didn't make an effort to distinguish the three from each other sonically. You shouldn't draw any conclusions from that test since one can get a good result without even listening to the clips. Maybe people who get good results don't think about it but it can still affect their pick and make them and others believe they hear a different. Not saying you can't hear a difference just that the test is flawed.
     
    Cheers!
     
  6. lovleylady
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    Hehe, you're right, of course.
     
    Cheers!
     
  7. Xinze
    Poorly recorded or not, there should be a clear difference from the 320 to 128. I didn't mention that I've tried FLAC vs 320 before, straight CD rip vs online download, and 0 difference there too.
     
  8. yepimonfire
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    i agree. i have a lot of poorly recorded black metal albums that will send any mp3 below 192k into artifacts, and then i have stuff (take foo fighters for example) that will sound halfway decent at 128k. 
     
  9. KT66
    The recordings are superb, it's the masterings that are *****.
     
    If you listen to highly compressed modern stuff, "Hi Fidelity" is not required. Unfortunately.
     
    try the test with Take Five or Folk Singer.
     
  10. Lord Voldemort
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    If we're talking about AAC, there is no "clear" difference. Usually people who do well in distinguishing between the two bitrates have experience in knowing what to look out for beforehand (soundstage, treble quality, filler noise, etc.) so their mind is better able to focus on these specific aspects of the music. In other words, the differences are only very small proportionately to the overall presentation. And if we also take into consideration that some recordings are better distinguished between different bitrates not merely for their recording quality but also for their aspects of sound (a congested passage for instance), we can conclude that we can't always expect to find a "clear" difference between 128 and 320. 
     
  11. BoxerOrBag
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    thank you! that was exactly my question.
    There is a sonic difference though. I don't want to ruin the fun for everybody else, but I'll just say that for those that can hear the difference, the score would not look like that.
     
  12. El_Doug Contributor
    well that mp3ornot site is really nice exercise - as expected, the difference was clearly distinguishable once I spent enough time on each, but if I were "listening" instead of "analyzing," I'm certain I wouldn't know the difference at all, ever. 
     
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    http://mp3ornot.com/badge/164579.png
     
  13. lovleylady
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    Statements like that is much more credible than claims of "night and day"-differences.
    Do you remember what you listened for more specifically?
     
    I find it very hard.
     
    Cheers!
     
  14. adamlr
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    thank you both very much.
     
    whats artifact?
     
  15. xnor
    From Wikipedia: "Compression artifacts in compressed audio typically show up as ringing, pre-echo, "birdie artifacts", drop-outs, rattling, warbling, metallic ringing, an underwater feeling, hissing, or "graininess"."
     
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