[cliffjnr]

In terms of DAP, I also believe the Sony is an excellent choice. But when I look at the power, I see quite big differences. My current X1 has an output level of 65 mW @ 32 ohms. According to the specs, the Sony has 1.1mW @ 32 ohms. With the Japanese variant this would be slightly higher. I read somewhere that this would be 35mW @ 16 ohms. But I cannot officially confirm this.
But this is still a lot less than the X1. It has 100mW @ 16 ohms. But I have no idea whether these specs can be compared one to one.
In any case, the output of my iPod classic 6th gen was insufficient for my dt770's. For my taste.

i use over the ear koss portapros with my sony (uk capped version btw) and its definitely loud enough. i usually have it at about 70-80 of 120 on volume, indoors.

when im outside i either use moondrop iem or sony Bluetooth over the ear headphones, with noise cancelling. i dont think the cap effects bluetooth fyi. same volume on both capped and uncapped.

ive never run into a problem where its not loud enough but i think you have to be smart about the headphones you choose to use with it.

 

[cliffjnr]

btw koss porta pros ive owned for 20 years. id like anyone to point me to better sounding headphones for the price. I don't think they exist.

theyre such amazing headphones imo. plus the design aesthetic definitely fits a sony walkman

 

[Hinomotocho]

the dust doesnt worry me round buttons. the space around the sides is good for gestures and navigation so that a positive. looking forward to getting mine to see how it is.

how are the buttons to use on the fat bear? its the reason i want to try it over my miter case. they look easy to differentiate in a pocket? and seem to have the little raised dots

what is your over cover (the smaller one?) looks good

Like my WM1Z FatBear case, they feel very responsive and are clearly defined and separated. The 2 volume buttons are slightly larger than the others.
I have a Mitre style leather case for my 1Z and button presses are a rough guess and very hit and miss.
My other case is a silicon, I also bought secondhand as it saved a few yen (there are a stack of used ones including the flip style case). I assumed it was an official Sony one but it might be another Japanese brand like Musashino or Eletech?

 

[Ricotjuh]

And have people ever used an external portable amplifier on a DAP like this Sony? But without a DAC, because in principle it is not necessary, since the DAP has its own DAC. Of course it would be a shame not to use it. But does this allow you to control more difficult headphones? For example, I already came across the Helm db12, but I assume there are several alternatives.
Or am I thinking so out of the box that it would be better to move on to something else.

 

[cliffjnr]

btw koss porta pros ive owned for 20 years. id like anyone to point me to better sounding headphones for the price. I don't think they exist.

theyre such amazing headphones imo. plus the design aesthetic definitely fits a sony walkman

the mighty koss

 

[ttt123]

I have this clear case. It has enough protection, and is not bulky.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BZ47NDNY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

 

[cliffjnr]

I have this clear case. It has enough protection, and is not bulky.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BZ47NDNY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

looks great

 

[karloil]

Good clear case. Has protected my a306 from a fall. No dents whatsoever.

 

[cliffjnr]

Good clear case. Has protected my a306 from a fall. No dents whatsoever.

lol your 3.5mm jack output looks overkill

 

[karloil]

lol your 3.5mm jack output looks overkill

No choice, that cable is 4.4mm terminated.

 

[cliffjnr]

No choice, that cable is 4.4mm terminated.

hows your 3.5mm port with all that plugged in? mine, is wobbly as anything. it doesnt effect the sound but its quite alarming how much i can move my headphone jack back and forwards. ive mentioned it before but someone said the sony port floats so its normal, but im not convinced mine should move this much haha. i might post a video of it

 

[cliffjnr]

hows your 3.5mm port with all that plugged in? mine, is wobbly as anything. it doesnt effect the sound but its quite alarming how much i can move my headphone jack back and forwards. ive mentioned it before but someone said the sony port floats so its normal, but im not convinced mine should move this much haha. i might post a video of it

actually heres a video of someone else with the same "problem". mine is exactly like this:

https://imgur.com/z7p0HLB

 

[ColdsnapBry]

actually heres a video of someone else with the same "problem". mine is exactly like this:

https://imgur.com/z7p0HLB

Yeesh, that would bug the hell out of me.

 

[cliffjnr]

Yeesh, that would bug the hell out of me.

does yours display this?

 

[cliffjnr]

actually heres a video of someone else with the same "problem". mine is exactly like this:

https://imgur.com/z7p0HLB

i would be interested to know if others are like this? my warranty runs till march and ill replace if its unusual. like i say it doesnt effect the sound even when wobbled but as a long term thing im not sure.