NEW information on JH-3a
Jun 23, 2011 at 7:06 AM Post #931 of 2,176
JP did you buy the Bridge direct from Halide ? They have a 60 day refund policy.
I am leaning towards the Halide myself.
Anyone going to use the solo with the 3a?


I will be using the Solo to 3A :)

iPhone - Blue Dragon iPod Dock to USB - CLAS - Black Dragon v2 coaxial to mini - JH3A - JH16

:) Currently unsure of the differences between Blue Dragon and Black Dragon :p And Silver Dragon.
 
Jun 23, 2011 at 10:03 AM Post #932 of 2,176


 
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JP did you buy the Bridge direct from Halide ? They have a 60 day refund policy.
I am leaning towards the Halide myself.
Anyone going to use the solo with the 3a?




I will be using the Solo to 3A
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iPhone - Blue Dragon iPod Dock to USB - CLAS - Black Dragon v2 coaxial to mini - JH3A - JH16

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Currently unsure of the differences between Blue Dragon and Black Dragon :p And Silver Dragon.



 Best to call or email Drew about the differances in cables.
 
Jun 23, 2011 at 10:07 AM Post #933 of 2,176


 
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I still think the audiophilleo 2 would be a good option, it has much less jitter (2.6 ps is claimed) than even the Halide, and will pull 44.1 16 audio asynchronously from an ipad if a powered USB bus is used in between them.
 
 


Thats a option but I like that the Halide can be used by itself with my laptop.
 
 
 
Jun 23, 2011 at 10:48 AM Post #934 of 2,176
from the facebooks:
 
Hey Everyone,
 
We are doing a update to the gain structure of the 3A.  The factory turned the output stage up +12db which is raising the noise floor.  Also the digital input is +7db louder than the analog input.  These issues arose after I signed off on the amp.  They are being addressed immediately and should be finalized by weeks end and we will be shipping again.
 
Jerry


 
Jun 23, 2011 at 11:08 AM Post #935 of 2,176


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from the facebooks:
 
Hey Everyone,
 
We are doing a update to the gain structure of the 3A.  The factory turned the output stage up +12db which is raising the noise floor.  Also the digital input is +7db louder than the analog input.  These issues arose after I signed off on the amp.  They are being addressed immediately and should be finalized by weeks end and we will be shipping again.
 
Jerry



A little worrying that the factory are able to adjust specifications after they have been signed off.
 
 
 
 
Jun 23, 2011 at 1:29 PM Post #937 of 2,176
working with China can be challenging, thats just all there is to it.
 
 



My comment isn't really specific to China and any potential issues with language etc

How can these things change AFTER the amps have been signed off?

If they are software controlled (which is perhaps were I'm misunderstanding things) and the software is programmed into the amp, how can the manufacturing process change this? After JHA 'sign off'?

I guess it's pure speculation on my part as I don't know the process. Just sounds awfully odd to me.

 
Jun 23, 2011 at 2:52 PM Post #938 of 2,176
I don't know the specifics of the production process used between JHA and the factory but I do know software development and if I've understood what has been reported here correctly, JHA use a "front end" software package to enter the values needed, (and understand that the data is much more complex than just 'up the treble a bit'; frequency, amplitude, time and possibly phase corrections are involved for each tweak). All through the early production JHA will be discovering and understanding new things all the time and I would guess the "core" code has had some tweaks by now. The code adjustments that tweak the code to each individual case and driver set also have to go through this translation process, again creating the potential for bugs to creep in.
The compiling software and the person who knows how to use it to compile this data into code the DSP chip can understand I believe is presently only at the factory in China and it's only too easy for errors to creep into the code translation process. As anyone who has worked in programming is aware, any little change to the source code can and often does create problems elsewhere in the software. That's why debugging software amendments is always needed, to find the new problems created in fixing the last one. Maybe JHA will be able to move the complete coding process in house one day, but they would need to be producing a hell of a lot of these things to justify the wages of a specialist like this.
 
Jun 23, 2011 at 4:16 PM Post #939 of 2,176

 
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got my Moon Audio adapters in moments ago!! Right now I am testing the Halide Bridge with the Moon BNC to mini SPDiF after this I am going to test the AES to mini SPDiF that he built as well.
 
I'll get to impressions later what I will say is first it all works (whew!) secondly it appears to sound more layered and less edge than the USB.



huh, are you sure about this detail? this is like connecting half of an analogue XLR and expecting improvement over an RCA (or is it a bnc aes?). unless the specific digital receiver i2s convertor internally has the capability to have AES input in both phases and not just transformer coupled (rare), the inverting input just gets tied to ground and/or terminated with 50r.to ground. AES is only effective if all parts of the chain are capable of 'understanding it' and is only needed for long runs, having more swing is of no value in short spdif runs.and there is no such thing as a 110r xlr connector/socket, its an ill conceived standard imo (and yes i still used it for a while if you look at my sig. ( i must change that)
 
this is what i love about usb audio, a lot of these standards are a nightmare, properly conceived usb audio gets around a lot of it, but of course creates its own issues.
 
Jun 23, 2011 at 6:26 PM Post #940 of 2,176
I've got to work with the Metric Halo folks to set up the input out put scheme on their computer ware to get aes to work so no love yet, my comments regarding detail was regarding the Halide USB to mini SPDiF.
 
USB to SPDif or USB dacs that I have enjoyed are far and few between as they often dull the sound and poor leading edge response. One of the few that I like was the Ayre DAC. None of the usb to spdif convertors that I tried at the $50 to $150 were worth a damn and displayed the issues I mentioned.
 
Jun 23, 2011 at 7:53 PM Post #941 of 2,176


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So did they never notice all this themselves while tuning the amps and before shipping them out.

 
Isn't each 3A "custom tuned" to each customer's IEM? Does that mean that they were tuned with the db boost? 
What I'm saying is, isn't each person who already received theirs, going to have to send back their units and their JH-13/16's?
 
 
Jun 23, 2011 at 8:04 PM Post #942 of 2,176
 
Isn't each 3A "custom tuned" to each customer's IEM? Does that mean that they were tuned with the db boost? 
What I'm saying is, isn't each person who already received theirs, going to have to send back their units and their JH-13/16's?
 

i was thinking the same, maybe it does not matter as the few that have had them have given glowing reports on the sound.
 
Jun 23, 2011 at 8:06 PM Post #943 of 2,176
The units are tuned witha dummy head mic I beleive a human ear did not hear it.  Aaron my 3a as is sounds good with a very minor hiss more like a presence that you can hear unplugging the IEM cable from the amp. I doubt they have to retune them but if they do you cant use the IEM part anyway without the amp.
 
It's so not a big deal to me that I'm more than willing to wait a few months for the queue to clear out as they sound great and  they get 2 hours plus a night
 

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