New Audio-gd R-7, R-7HE R-8, R-27, R-27HE, R-28 Flagship Resistor Ladder DACs and DAC/amps
May 18, 2019 at 9:40 AM Post #4,190 of 11,266
Went back to TDA Asy firmware on the R7 after using V3A while the the DA7 V2 DAC modules cooked a bit. The "magic" experienced before DAC module change is returning. Plus the Singxer SU-6 is settling down as well. TDA Asy (PCM) with a low jitter I2S source is amazing. Crisp clear highs, good bass, and great imaging.

44.1kHz Redbook files are fantastic with TDA Asy (OS8). Don't know why but they sound exceptional.
 
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May 18, 2019 at 12:17 PM Post #4,191 of 11,266
Hi guys.

The m3 is still improving after over 6 weeks. As i mentioned recently, bass control is top notch now.

Also, since two days ago, the macrodynamics have signficantly improved. This is the area that was still lacking, except for the low end punch, which has been awesome for a while.

The bass drum kicks have had great authority for a couple of weeks in fact. Bass control has been absolutely awesome. Your can hear that the 1000w rating under 2 ohms is for real (for peak demand, not in continuous of course as the transfos can "only" supply 750w). My loudspeakers can dig down to 25hz, so i can attest of this with certitude. Drums solos sound real.

I estimate i have put 600h on it so far i would tend to say it's now 98% there. I can now make the call it's a splendid amp and an absolute steal. It is so rich sounding, and by this i don't mean it puts emphasis on the mids, it does not. The mids just carry more info and textures. And first and foremost, it sounds analog, as Kingwa himself states on the description page. The highs have no grain whatsoever.

I am gonna try overall heavier gauge homemade acss cables within the next weeks. I ordered litz wire meant for headphones with high occ silver contents. Hoping to get some more speed out of it, but as it has been for a couple of days, the M3 have no more caveat. I just need to make final integration by finding the best matching cables.
 
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May 18, 2019 at 1:43 PM Post #4,192 of 11,266
Went back to TDA Asy firmware on the R7 after using V3A while the the DA7 V2 DAC modules cooked a bit. The "magic" experienced before DAC module change is returning. Plus the Singxer SU-6 is settling down as well. TDA Asy (PCM) with a low jitter I2S source is amazing. Crisp clear highs, good bass, and great imaging.

44.1kHz Redbook files are fantastic with TDA Asy (OS8). Don't know why but they sound exceptional.

I've been running TDA Async OS 8X on my Master-11S with the Acusilicon clocks and Singxer SU-6 I2S (RJ-45, my unit is an older build without HDMI). The Acusilicons are probably at about 300 hours so far. I think this is the best my system has ever sounded, very happy :)
 
May 18, 2019 at 8:48 PM Post #4,193 of 11,266
@FredA You're making me really want to order a Master 3. I am very much enjoying my pair of bridged-mono Precision 3S amps (with MUSES 8920) with my R-28... it's kind of insane how good they sound for the money. I would like to hold off until I can afford a pair of Master-2H amps though.

@DACLadder Are you finding you're missing any detail going from the V3A from the TDA Asy? I have a USB blaster on order, so I'll eventually be able to gauge for myself. I'm very content with the V3A (though I haven't installed my Accusilicons yet).
 
May 18, 2019 at 10:17 PM Post #4,194 of 11,266
@FredA You're making me really want to order a Master 3. I am very much enjoying my pair of bridged-mono Precision 3S amps (with MUSES 8920) with my R-28... it's kind of insane how good they sound for the money. I would like to hold off until I can afford a pair of Master-2H amps though.

@DACLadder Are you finding you're missing any detail going from the V3A from the TDA Asy? I have a USB blaster on order, so I'll eventually be able to gauge for myself. I'm very content with the V3A (though I haven't installed my Accusilicons yet).
You would ideally have to upgrade the whole chain of course, unless your speakers are tough to drive, then you would benefit from the upgrade.

The M3 really needs 600 hours of burn-in to give you the total package. What's really amazing is you get the best attributes of both a big and a small amp.
 
May 19, 2019 at 8:47 AM Post #4,195 of 11,266
@Turdski Or ask Kingwa what he thinks. He mentioned the m3 was more transparent than the a1 for instance. The gain stages are fed with independent transfos and are topped with an aluminum plate to minimize vibrations. And the design uses no feedback at all. This could possibly be worth it and moreso if you speakers are power-hungry. But remember that the m3 is HUGE.
 
May 19, 2019 at 9:46 AM Post #4,196 of 11,266
@DACLadder Are you finding you're missing any detail going from the V3A from the TDA Asy? I have a USB blaster on order, so I'll eventually be able to gauge for myself. I'm very content with the V3A (though I haven't installed my Accusilicons yet).

With a low jitter I2S source I am not missing anything with TDA Asy.vs V3A. You should try it for yourself!

Added later.... TDA Asy is interesting. Doesn't seem as loud as V3A but the power meters on my amp indicate more power is being delivered to the headpnones if I set volume by "ear".. With a low jitter I2S source the highs are better defined than V3A with a lot of detail. Bass is strong and maybe more so than V3A. V3A OS8 seems warmer that TDA Asy OS8 in broad strokes.

I liked TDA Asy even with the standard XOs and V1 DAC modules. Low jitter I2S source is key to getting the most out of TDA Asy. .
 
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May 20, 2019 at 3:23 AM Post #4,197 of 11,266
Same exporience, TDAasy seems to be not as loud as V3a, but imaging is different, more spacious. Maybe at the cost of a little bit juce and force. Not better/worse different and again a question of taste. I like it!
Ordered V2 boards and the Amanero Clocks...
 
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May 21, 2019 at 11:08 AM Post #4,198 of 11,266
The SIngxer SU-6 has been used about 1 month. Went back to the Gustard U16 today and the U16 shines, sparkles, and more liquid of the two DDCs. The SU-6 has better dynamics but seems overdone at this young stage. After changing back to the U16 the DA7 V2s are maturing quite nicely. The "magic" has returned to the R7.

Gustard U16 HDMI I2S -> R7 -> TDA Asy firmware -> Acusilicon XOs -> DA7 V2 DAC modules are a great combination!

The U16 works much better on my PC with the ASIO driver and buffer size set to 512 samples at 44.1kHz. Still has a few idiosyncrasies but understood. The SU-6 has been flawless in operation except once where I got static on HDMI I2S after a cold start with V3A firmware. Reboot and all OK.
 
May 21, 2019 at 1:29 PM Post #4,199 of 11,266
@FredA Yeah, I actually wouldn't have room on my current component/TV stand for a Master 3. I could make a pair of Master 2Hs work, but as you said, I would really need to be upgrading my DAC and preamp as well – which is the plan (R7 plus Master 1 AND Master 9*).

@DACLadder Thanks for your thoughts on V3A vs. TDA Asy. I find the R-28 is just a bit less dynamic than the Master 9 was when I had one, so hopefully the TDA Asy will be plenty dynamic, as it otherwise sounds like a step in the right direction.

*Kingwa said I could order a Master 1 with two pairs of ACSS outputs (long story; was thinking of getting a Master 3 for passive bass units, and Master 2H for my main speakers, but will likely do powered subwoofers from MJ Acoustics, or custom active bass units by my speaker builder guy), so I assume I could get a DAC with two pairs of ACSS outputs, and then run a longer set of ACSS interconnects to my nearby desk for headphone listening.
 
May 21, 2019 at 1:52 PM Post #4,200 of 11,266
I've just received the package from China, and I couldn't believe my eyes when i saw that both Accusilicon XOs where missing. Importing stuff to Uruguay is not easy at all, this is big mess.

DA7 V2 boards are there. Can anybody please let me know if V2 looks exactly the same as V1? Because that's what it seems, and the new boards only have written 'DA-7'.
 

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