Neumann NDH 30
Apr 22, 2023 at 12:05 PM Post #1,982 of 4,920
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Oratory’s measurements.

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Apr 22, 2023 at 12:22 PM Post #1,984 of 4,920
Is this a new measurement? Did "Listener" revisit the NDH 30? In a review he stated that it is a boring headphone (!), inferior to the HD-600/650 (!!), not worthing its money (!!!)
Headphone world is a mystery world sometimes...
 
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Apr 22, 2023 at 1:16 PM Post #1,985 of 4,920
Is this a new measurement? Did "Listener" revisit the NDH 30? In a review he stated that it is a boring headphone (!), inferior to the HD-600/650 (!!), not worthing its money (!!!)
Headphone world is a mystery world sometimes...
I don't know, I found this measurement and I posted it here.
Anyway, measurements are just for reference, they can't tell you what you are going to actually hear.
 
Apr 22, 2023 at 1:48 PM Post #1,986 of 4,920
I don't know, I found this measurement and I posted it here.
Anyway, measurements are just for reference, they can't tell you what you are going to actually hear.
Frequency response tells you the exact output of a transducer based on input at any given frequency. You can absolutely tell the difference in tone and map that to frequency response. FR will not however tell you everything about the sound reproduction.

Please do not write nonsensical stuff
 
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Apr 22, 2023 at 2:06 PM Post #1,988 of 4,920
Οι επαγγελματίες κριτικοί θα πρέπει να υπόκεινται σε αυστηρότερα πρότυπα και να ελέγχουν δύο φορές τις δηλώσεις τους για λανθασμένα στοιχεία
 
Apr 22, 2023 at 2:12 PM Post #1,989 of 4,920
Οι επαγγελματίες κριτικοί θα πρέπει να υπόκεινται σε αυστηρότερα πρότυπα και να ελέγχουν δύο φορές τις δηλώσεις τους για λανθασμένα στοιχεία
We should send them to tax authorities too in order to correct them.

He said the most obvious thing he could say on this matter.
 
Apr 22, 2023 at 2:27 PM Post #1,990 of 4,920
Is this a new measurement? Did "Listener" revisit the NDH 30? In a review he stated that it is a boring headphone
I've yet to become a NDH30 owner, I've heard them and the review appears fairly close to my initial impressions....and similar to what I've gathered here....detailed, great bass, an over all easy going phone.
Sadly I see a lot of reviewers mention bass, or impact, and it makes or breaks a phone for them....bass impact is fun but IMHO no where near neutral, especially with regards to acoustic instrumentation and even there many phones give you super drums.
Believe the same reviewer gave my current HD820 a few minus points due to the bass, oh well.:triportsad:
(!), inferior to the HD-600/650 (!!),
Don't believe he stated inferior anywhere...just a slight bias "No, they aren’t the second coming of HD650. We can all settle down and resume dreaming. "...

not worthing its money (!!!)
Headphone world is a mystery world sometimes...
it's what they're worth to you that counts. :)
 
Apr 22, 2023 at 2:46 PM Post #1,991 of 4,920
Frequency response tells you the exact output of a transducer based on input at any given frequency. You can absolutely tell the difference in tone and map that to frequency response. FR will not however tell you everything about the sound reproduction.

Please do not write nonsensical stuff
Yeah.... you are always right, great source of wisdom, thank you.
 
Apr 22, 2023 at 2:49 PM Post #1,992 of 4,920
Οι επαγγελματίες κριτικοί θα πρέπει να υπόκεινται σε αυστηρότερα πρότυπα και να ελέγχουν δύο φορές τις δηλώσεις τους για λανθασμένα στοιχεία
Έγραψα ότι η μέτρηση συχνότητας δεν είναι ενδεικτική για το πως θα ακούσεις - εσύ - υποκειμενικά το ακουστικό.

You should learn better English, your Greek are fine.
 
Apr 22, 2023 at 2:58 PM Post #1,994 of 4,920
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Apr 22, 2023 at 3:02 PM Post #1,995 of 4,920
That is not what you wrote earlier. But whatever. You believe whatever you want to believe.

here are some study materials for you: https://www.mathworks.com/support/search.html?q=audio measurement&page=1
"Anyway, measurements are just for reference, they can't tell you what you are going to actually hear"

This is what I wrote.
It means that you don't know how the NDH-30 will sound by just browsing the frequency response graph.

You have to listen to know.

Πιο απλά δεν γίνεται να το γράψω.
 

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