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[scytheavatar]

Denon D2000.

 

[Rednamalas1]

Grado SR-225 would be a good fit for you if you're into rock and metal. After that, I would upgrade AD700 to AD2000 if you're willing to spend

 

[Kernmac]

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Originally Posted by Rednamalas1 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Grado SR-225 would be a good fit for you if you're into rock and metal. After that, I would upgrade AD700 to AD2000 if you're willing to spend

I'm pretty sure Rednamalas1 meant AD900 to AD2000. Grados can be a risk, not everyone gets turned on by them. If you like the AT sound (and you obviously do) but want a great little rock phone, I would consider the ESW9, however I am biased.

My ESW9 are a better rock fon than my MS2i were (better to live with for sure), IMO of course. (Puts on flame suit).

 

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[Kernmac]

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Originally Posted by nauxolo /img/forum/go_quote.gif Would this ESW9 become a replacement for my AD900? I don't mind paying a lot for a nice headphone, but I don't want to lose the functionality of the AD900. I rather expand into different realms of headphones instead of stick to one mode, if you know what I mean?

Fair question, and one that is hard to answer for someone else. I have both the AD900 and the ESW9 and no intention of getting rid of either (well until I find a better AD900-enter AD2000 or SA5000). They are similar in that they have an ATH sound signature (you can tell they are related) but they are very different in many respects. The AD900 is airy and I would describe it as being focussed on the mids and highs, not cold but not warm, more neutral (but it is coloured). The ESW9 is warmer not dark but bass/mid centric, not nearly as airy and quite forward in a Grardoish way. So they have very different sound signatures (even though I know they are related-cousins perhaps) and I like both of them at differant times. This sound difference is not the only thing that sets these two fons apart: ESW9 is smallish (Rests on the ears) is wooden and leather and is what I would call a semi portable. The AD900 as you already know is very large and quite open, metalic and velour. Now as to whether the ESW9 would replace your AD900, only you can make that decision. For me I would not say they are in the same mode. If you want totally diferent then go the Grado/Alessandro route, or you could try the Ultrasones. I certainly toe tapped with my MS2i and I toe tap with my ESW9 as well. Mind you I don't find the AD900 too analytical or detailed for rock, I quite like them with many rock orientated tracks and I tap my toes whilst I smile and get involved in the tunes.

 

[Kees]

For a cheaper option you may want to look into Goldring DR150.

 

[elliot42]

I love my AD900, but I recently got MS2i and I have been using them at work for the past few weeks. After owning the AD900 for a few months I really wanted something that I could rock out to, and the MS2i sure do deliver. AD900 sound really nice and polite after hearing MS2i all day at work

I haven't put much time on the AD900 lately (haven't had much listening time at home recently), but I think that the Alessandro do complement them well. I like the AD900 for a lot of music, particularly classical, daft punk, radiohead, and more. They are good too for rock and metal in that they have good detail and an even sound overall. But to really rock out and toe-tap to some DT, Tool or Opeth, it's MS2i all the way

Keep in mind that Grado/Alessandro are pretty detailed and crisp and some people don't like the sound (or just can't handle it

), but I find them just fine. In terms of bass, I'd say they're probably similar (but haven't compared side by side) to the AD900; the bass is all there, well refined and punchy (especially when amped) but isn't accentuated over the other frequencies.

The MS2is have replaced my PortaPros for listening at work, which are also a fun can, but I found the bass too much to really hear enough detail and this decreased their rockability for me. Still great for something like Justice.

Just my experiences, good luck in your search.

 

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[Kernmac]

elliot42 summed it up pretty well from my perspective as well. MS2i is a great rock fon, not for everybody though and not always for long periods of headtime.

 

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[Rednamalas1]

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Originally Posted by nauxolo /img/forum/go_quote.gif So, my dad just came home with a new pair of headphones for himself: ATH-AD2000. I must say, his AD2000 is much MORE engaging than my AD900. Everything is warmer, and feels right next to you. Only potential problem is that it is not as 'accurate' of a headphone. Instruments sound in your head, rather than on stage where the AD900 seems. Now... after listening to hip-hop, pop, and rock (which is what I want to use my new headphones for), I say that the AD2000 is different, not necessarily better than the AD900. So, I'm pretty sure my next set is not what the AD2000 has. I guess it's just not head thumping enough. It's more of a warm/engaging version of the AD900. Sure, the AD2000 bass is more thumping, but it feels slightly muddled when I play Kanye West, and Chris Brown. When I play trance/house music, neither the AD900 or AD2000 really impress me. I guess it's only for vocals that suit both the Ad900/AD2000 . So my question is... will the Alessandro MS2i fit hip-hop/trance? Elliot mentioned that the bass for the MS2i is similar to the AD900... which means it is pretty weak? I need more bass than either the AD900 or AD2000 can deliver.

what are you running them from? because AD2000 is not any more colored than AD900/700 are imo.

Try to listen to good recordings of classic rock, classical, jazz, blues and you'll notice that it's absolutely fantastic at handling fast and complex transitions. And I wound't consider kanye or chris brown as being muddled in any case.

EDIT: AD2000's midrange can be "honky" when they are on your head too tight, I bent the headband so that bottom part of the cups of AD2K are about 2 inches apart when resting. That got rid of that honky midrange

 

[Uncle Erik]

Don't buy the Bose. They're awful, try listening to a pair.

If you want to rock and can spend up to $500, why not a used Grado RS-1? The RS-1 is the rock headphone. You'd love it and I think there are a few used pairs for sale here right now.

If you want something a little more laid back, you could always spend $300 for a Sennheiser HD-600 ($200 used) and pick up something like the Eddie Current Lunchbox for $200 to go with it. The HD-600 sounds fantastic with a set of tubes - you'll get the detail, but it's a more laid back sound than you're used to. They're also one of the best headphones for classical.

 

[nauxolo]

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[Rednamalas1]

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Originally Posted by nauxolo /img/forum/go_quote.gif Hm, that makes me worried. The AD2000 sound a lot more 'colored' than my AD900. Is my AD900 defective? I'm running off xtrememusic --> zero dac with hdam lt 1364 --> headphones I tried pulling the ear pieces a little further from my ear (is this the same effect as bending it?), and it sounds a little less honky, but still more warm than the AD900. Infinitely more so, that it makes the AD900 seem analytical and flat after switching headphones.

for headphone stretching issues:

in stretching the headband issue, to of your ear shouldn't be touching the drivers - so that requires fair bit of stretching.

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/int...issues-380189/

and

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/3949087-post5.html

I've only heard the zero once in short period of time, but I remember being underwhelmed by it. How about a dedicated headphone amp with tons of current output such as gilmore lite or dynalo DIY? I enjoy my Glite quite a bit, and it's very balanced and transparent, which plays to AD2000's strengths.

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Originally Posted by nauxolo /img/forum/go_quote.gif Anyway, should I consider a Darth Beyer? Edit: Maybe my color terms are different than yours. Also, when I say rocking, I really mean something good for stuff like Panic at the Disco/hip-hop/trance, etc... not really rock such as Pink Floyd.

I would pass on darths. They have tons of bass, but it's rather uncontrolled and mid and treble were little recessed for my taste.

Again, Ad2000 is amazing with those genres, and quite forgiving of the source as well, given the right amp and source. RS-1 would be very rocking headphone as well, but imo, they really do shine from good amp (as all headphones generally are).