Moving away from my K701s to..

[Uncle Erik]

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Originally Posted by Acix /img/forum/go_quote.gif It's not the treble issue, it's the resolution allover the spectrum this why the 800 sounds more close to the K701/2 than the 600 or the 650. lol, op if you don't like the 701 not sure you'll like the 800.

I respectully disagree, my friend.

It is entirely possible to love the HD-800 while disliking the K-701.

For the OP, I think the HD-600 is a very good choice. Paired with the right amp, the HD-600 is a marvelous headphone and should give you what you love.

I'd also recommend looking at the DT880. It is a little more forward than a Sennheiser, but still gives you a natural tonal balance.

 

[Jodet]

I went from 701's to Denon D5000's and am love them to death.

 

[Kevin.T]

I started with the K701, then bought the HD600 and sold the K701 a few months later. It wasn't even a hard fight either, the HD600 was just plain better to my ear.

Personally, I thought the HD600 sounded much more "real": More even frequency spectrum (more bass impact and better midrange), more body, better tone... just overall much more natural in it's presentation. I do miss the airiness and dryness that the K701 presented, but it sounded nowhere near as natural and pleasant as the HD600 on all recordings.

Even in the details, which is where I thought the Sennheisers would fall against the AKG, I felt they were pretty close: I never felt like I was missing any (important) detail in the music with the HD600 on my ears.

But that's just my opinion, and your mileage may vary. My advice would be to own both, like I did, and spend some time with both, until you feel like you're ready to let one go. This way you'll probably never regret your decision.

 

[Acix]

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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik /img/forum/go_quote.gif I respectully disagree, my friend. It is entirely possible to love the HD-800 while disliking the K-701. For the OP, I think the HD-600 is a very good choice. Paired with the right amp, the HD-600 is a marvelous headphone and should give you what you love. I'd also recommend looking at the DT880. It is a little more forward than a Sennheiser, but still gives you a natural tonal balance.

It's your experience, but not mine, my friend.

The HD-800 are 300 ohm, and the K702 are 62 ohm. Some heavy tubes will be fine with the 800, but they will crash and destroyed the 701 sound. And this is the only reason that you don't like the K701. You are more than welcome to check them both on some SS high quality amp and you'll find a lot in common. And please report in.

It's dishonest to keep bashing the 701, or the K702 only base on your experience with your tube amp. As I told you for the last 300 times.

 

[franatium]

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Originally Posted by Acix /img/forum/go_quote.gif I agree!

3rded for what its worth.

I have a friend who also lives in Lower Hutt who has the HD 600s if you want to have a listen sometime, PM me

My K701s have many many hours on them if you'd like to compare them to yours to see if the brightness settles after a while.

 

[Valens7]

I went from a K701 to an HD600, and I was stunned by just how much more I liked it. Although my experience is still fairly limited, I have yet to hear a headphone that I enjoy more than the HD600.

That said, I have seriously considered picking up another K701 to try with my current rig. After all, there were aspects of the headphone that I sincerely enjoyed. Who knows, maybe I'll like it more this time around?

 

[Shike]

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Originally Posted by loopfreak /img/forum/go_quote.gif If you think that akg k701/2 are bright then it akg k601 will not be an option ! Akg k601 are bright and less detailed than akg k701/2 and you need some serious amp.Akg k601 are harder to amp then k701/2.... Why dont you get an amp with warmer sound it would be great with 701/2?

The K601's are no where near as bright as the K701, nor are they less detailed.

How you got such an idea I'll never know.

 

[Cankin]

Everyone's experience is different, K601 is less extended and is less detailed than K701 to my ears.

 

[Shike]

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Originally Posted by Cankin /img/forum/go_quote.gif Everyone's experience is different

While that is true to some extent, the K601s being bright (especially in regards to the K701) sounds like a stretch to me honestly.

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K601 is less extended and is less detailed than K701 to my ears.

The problem I have is that bright phones is they inherently sound like they have more detail because they're hotter in that range (such as the K701).

That's just me though I guess.

 

[loopfreak]

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Originally Posted by Shike /img/forum/go_quote.gif The K601's are no where near as bright as the K701, nor are they less detailed. How you got such an idea I'll never know.

Maybe because I own them both !
Dont get me wrong I love bright laid back sound of akg k601 with rock, especially with grunge.

 

[Anonanimal]

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Originally Posted by Valens7 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I went from a K701 to an HD600, and I was stunned by just how much more I liked it. Although my experience is still fairly limited, I have yet to hear a headphone that I enjoy more than the HD600. That said, I have seriously considered picking up another K701 to try with my current rig. After all, there were aspects of the headphone that I sincerely enjoyed. Who knows, maybe I'll like it more this time around?

Going from K701 to HD650 I had a very, very similar experience. I just happen to be more sensitive to both headphones and speakers with a bumped-up higher range, and I find it unpleasant. I still have my K701 but the only head time it gets is when I'm curious to try it with a different amp. I also feel that people are too quick often to label the 650 as "veiled" though, simply because they read it somewhere. Reminds me of hearing about the Grado "toe-tapping" sound... /sigh.

Either way, what it really comes down to is personal preference. You really need to just try out a few different pairs instead of listening solely to us, since you can see how varied our listening preferences are.

Good luck!!

 

[cAsE sEnSiTiVe]

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Originally Posted by Acix /img/forum/go_quote.gif It's your experience, but not mine, my friend. The HD-800 are 300 ohm, and the K702 are 62 ohm. Some heavy tubes will be fine with the 800, but they will crash and destroyed the 701 sound. And this is the only reason that you don't like the K701. You are more than welcome to check them both on some SS high quality amp and you'll find a lot in common. And please report in. It's dishonest to keep bashing the 701, or the K702 only base on your experience with your tube amp. As I told you for the last 300 times.

Assuming a 4ch b22 amp meets your qualifications, I own both a single-ended, and balanced pair of 701's, have used them with both tubed, and the SS amp previously stated, and my findings are the same as Erik's. IMHO, the 701 takes tonal liberties with certain instruments that I cannot tolerate. The leanness of it's mid-bass region, along with a rather peaky lower treble, make for a VERY unnatural musical experience....again, IN MY OPINION.

I wanted like hell to like them. I burned them in for 300hrs...then 500....then 1000....then 2000. Then I gave up.

I know you love the 701's...hell, the whole board knows you love them. It doesn't mean everyone MUST share that love.

 

[DavidMahler]

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Originally Posted by Acix /img/forum/go_quote.gif It's not the treble issue, it's the resolution allover the spectrum this why the 800 sounds more close to the K701/2 than the 600 or the 650. lol, op if you don't like the 701 not sure you'll like the 800.

I don't personally think the HD800 resemble the K701 over the HD600. In the aspect of soundstage yes, but I don't think overall, I would say the HD800 resemble the HD600 moreso than the K701.

 

[userlander]

The headphone that first comes to mind when I was reading your post is the AD900s. I think those would be perfect for you: lots of detail, no veil, no overwhelming bass or low mids, amp optional (but would probably sound great with your shanling). If you don't like HD650, I don't think you're going to like HD600. From what you describe, I think the AT900s would be worth looking into.

 

[Palpatine]

I also feel the HD800 sounds more like the HD600 than the K702. The HD650 is a little darker IMO, but it has better bass than the HD600, that is why I sold the HD600 and bought the HD650. I look forward to getting the HD800 as along with greater soundstage, the bass quantity is there like the HD650, but it is brighter than the HD650, like the HD600.