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You can add Ginger Baker, Keith Moon to the mix as well (and Bill Ward too IMO).

 
Agreed on all three. And just for the record Phil Collins was an awesome drummer back in the Peter Gabriel days of Genesis, when that's all he was.
 
edit: How about most underrated drummer? My vote goes to Ringo Starr.
 
Not to mention John Densmore, who had to carry the rhythm section without a bassist.

 

[MacedonianHero]

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Agreed on all three. And just for the record Phil Collins was an awesome drummer back in the Peter Gabriel days of Genesis, when that's all he was.

No arguments here...and a fantastic singing voice to boot.

 

[manveru]

For the win.
 

 

[MorbidToaster]

My girlfriend cries every time she hears this so I can't listen to it right now.
 
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For the win.

 

[grokit]

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For the win.

 

That was a horrible reminder of everything that went wrong after Mr. Gabriel left the band.

 

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What's your beef with Peart? I couldn't care less who you like or dislike...but the facts are still there (whether you choose to acknowledge them or not).
 
So with Rock, no there weren't innovators before the drummers I mentioned that anyone today would name or care to for that matter.

 
I don't have a beef with Peart. I think he's a great drummer. The problem is that you're making it sound like he is the end all be all of drummers and that no modern drummers are innovators, simply followers of what others did in the past, and that's not true.
 
Edit: Actually, you clearly stated it.
 
 

Its one thing to be an innovator and pioneer and something completely different to be just a follower. 

 

[manveru]

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 That was a horrible reminder of everything that went wrong after Mr. Gabriel left the band.

 
Hahahaha. I love my Disney.
 
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I don't have a beef with Peart. I think he's a great drummer. The problem is that you're making it sound like he is the end all be all of drummers and that no modern drummers are innovators, simply followers of what others did in the past, and that's not true.

 
I agree. I won't deny any status he holds in context with the past, but (and please don't take this out of proportion anyone) if you were to ignore all that, by today's standards he is extremely generic.

 

[MacedonianHero]

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I don't have a beef with Peart. I think he's a great drummer. The problem is that you're making it sound like he is the end all be all of drummers and that no modern drummers are innovators, simply followers of what others did in the past, and that's not true.
 
Edit: Actually, you clearly stated it.
 
 

 
He is one of the greatest drummers of all time. Are modern drummers good, sure, but I haven't been wowed by their "innovation" by what Peart, Bonham, Moon and Baker have already done. 
 
Oh, and found this little ditty:
 
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/rolling-stone-readers-pick-best-drummers-of-all-time-20110208

 

[MorbidToaster]

He is one of the greatest drummers of all time. Are modern drummers good, sure, but I haven't been wowed by their "innovation" by what Peart, Bonham, Moon and Baker have already done. 

Oh, and found this little ditty:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/rolling-stone-readers-pick-best-drummers-of-all-time-20110208

Damn good list except for friggin Ringo...

 

[MacedonianHero]

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Damn good list except for friggin Ringo...

I guess they threw him in there because he was the drummer for the Beatles.
 
I wouldn't put Ringo in the top 10 drummers in the Beatles. 

  But the top 3 are totally spot on for me. 

 

[grokit]

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How about most underrated drummer? My vote goes to Ringo Starr.

 

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He is one of the greatest drummers of all time. Are modern drummers good, sure, but I haven't been wowed by their "innovation" by what Peart, Bonham, Moon and Baker have already done. 
 
Oh, and found this little ditty:
 
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/rolling-stone-readers-pick-best-drummers-of-all-time-20110208

 
I'm curious... what modern drummers have you heard? Would you mind naming a few off the top of your head?
 
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How about most underrated drummer? My vote goes to Ringo Starr.

 
Agreed.

 

[manveru]

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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/rolling-stone-readers-pick-best-drummers-of-all-time-20110208

 
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Lists like this make me laugh. It is Rolling Stone though, so I don't know why I'd expect anything other than a popularity contest in the first place.

 

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This is exactly what I'm talking about. Lists like this make me laugh. It is Rolling Stone though, so I don't know why I'd expect anything other than a popularity contest in the first place.

 
Yeah. This. When I saw the link to Rolling Stone I said to myself "Oh boy, here we go!", but I didn't want to say it.

 

[grokit]

Gotta give props to the innovators though. I'm glad they included Buddy Rich.