There is truth in this statement. Not true for the 600i though. It all comes down to pairings, headphones and music genres. Not to mention personal preference.Would agree, particularly the Pro iCan, which I thought was highly unmusical and lacked “soul.”
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It does seem to have a lot riding on the chain/synergy.
I'd be curious which DACs are used...I don't think I'd be a fan of the qutest, since I got rid of my Hugo (V1)...it didn't tic the boxes for me (not calling you out or anything, that was the only DAC I recall being mentioned, & I am familiar with the Chord sound to an extent)
. If the LP is that transparent to source, it seems the DAC would make a big(ish) difference.
My iCan Pro is OK for now, but may be upgraded in the future.
I do enjoy my MCTH, but that's also somewhat of a weak link...I bought it for my 1st foray into the tube world.
Also fine for now, but the LP seems like an upgrade in almost every aspect....I must hear one for myself.
I'd be curious which DACs are used...I don't think I'd be a fan of the qutest, since I got rid of my Hugo (V1)...it didn't tic the boxes for me (not calling you out or anything, that was the only DAC I recall being mentioned, & I am familiar with the Chord sound to an extent)
. If the LP is that transparent to source, it seems the DAC would make a big(ish) difference.
My iCan Pro is OK for now, but may be upgraded in the future.
I do enjoy my MCTH, but that's also somewhat of a weak link...I bought it for my 1st foray into the tube world.
Also fine for now, but the LP seems like an upgrade in almost every aspect....I must hear one for myself.
Wildcatsare1
Headphoneus Supremus
There is truth in this statement. Not true for the 600i though. It all comes down to pairings, headphones and music genres. Not to mention personal preference.
Thanks, I’m looking forward to listening to the 600i one of these days. Is the 2C a pretty dark Can?
Fairly on the 'dark side'. Solid bass, excellent extension downward sloping after 1K or so.Thanks, I’m looking forward to listening to the 600i one of these days. Is the 2C a pretty dark Can?
I imagine it'd be a good pairing with the LP
IF measurements if you like those:
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudezeLCD2Classic.pdf
TK16
Headphoneus Supremus
Just placed an order for 1.
Has anybody tried the 6CC41/6N2P in the LP? They are a drop in replacement in my other 6922 variant amps and dac. No adapter needed.
Has anybody tried the 6CC41/6N2P in the LP? They are a drop in replacement in my other 6922 variant amps and dac. No adapter needed.
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LCMusicLover
Headphoneus Supremus
This post from @runeight regarding subbing in 6n6p tubes is fairly definitive. Lots of related discussion in subsequent posts.Just placed an order for 1.
Has anybody tried the 6CC41/6N2P in the LP? They are a drop in replacement in my other 6922 variant amps and dac. No adapter needed.
6.3V at 330mA MAX. You'll need two tubes.
Both heaters and HV are powered by small SMPSs. The plate voltage on and the current in the tubes is controlled regardless of tube type until the auto bias cannot account for the operating point of the tube. Which then means it doesn't behave like a 6922 or close to a 6922.
Pls keep in mind my comments above about how closely the tubes should match a typical 6922.
IIRC, 6N6P is not that close a match to 6922. But I know that many people sub them.
TK16
Headphoneus Supremus
Thanks read that already, was wondering if anybody tried them in the thread.This post from @runeight regarding subbing in 6n6p tubes is fairly definitive. Lots of related discussion in subsequent posts.
@ TK16 - Yes! A true tube rolling master, has joined the club. I look forward to seeing all the tubes, you roll through the LP! On another note, I read through the lyr tube rolling thread and found your post about the Brimar CV2492, and I just bought a pair on Ebay, and can't wait to roll them in the LP. I am super happy with the Amperex 7308, but you know how that goes. . .Thanks read that already, was wondering if anybody tried them in the thread.
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TK16
Headphoneus Supremus
They are one of my favorite UK tubes a tier under 6201 Mullard Mitcham and the square getter Mullard Blackburn ECC81. Think you will love them.@ TK16 - Yes! A true tube rolling master, has joined the club. I look forward to seeing all the tubes, you roll through the LP! On another note, I read through the lyr tube rolling thread and found your post about the Brimar CV2492, and I just bought a pair on Ebay, and can't wait to roll them in the LP. I am super happy with the Amperex 7308, but you know how that goes. . .
DRHamp
100+ Head-Fier
Has anybody tried the 6CC41/6N2P in the LP? They are a drop in replacement in my other 6922 variant amps and dac. No adapter needed
Haven't tried them, but my guess is you will have the same problem that I had with 6201/12AT7 - noise likely due to "too high gain". If the "high" gain theory is correct, the 6N2P with a gain of 100 probably won't work, but I look forward to your results, I know you're gonna try it. As I've mentioned before, the 12AU7s with gain < 20 work very well and some are exceptional.
TK16
Headphoneus Supremus
Seems way too high a gain for the 6N2P/ECC83 (100), the ECC81 series is (60). I'll give my best 6201 a shot in there. But not hopeful.Haven't tried them, but my guess is you will have the same problem that I had with 6201/12AT7 - noise likely due to "too high gain". If the "high" gain theory is correct, the 6N2P with a gain of 100 probably won't work, but I look forward to your results, I know you're gonna try it. As I've mentioned before, the 12AU7s with gain < 20 work very well and some are exceptional.
DRHamp
100+ Head-Fier
Seems way too high a gain for the 6N2P/ECC83 (100), the ECC81 series is (60). I'll give my best 6201 a shot in there. But not hopeful
I tried several ECC81 variants including my late 50s Valvo PW 6201 which are near end-game for me in the MJ2, but no joy in the LP. I really hope they work for you and if so, I'll keep trying others
TK16
Headphoneus Supremus
Those PW are the ones I want to try. Only thing I can do is give them a shot. Not even going to try my E180CC PW Heerlen. That have a 400mA heater current iirc. All these other tubes around 300 mark.I tried several ECC81 variants including my late 50s Valvo PW 6201 which are near end-game for me in the MJ2, but no joy in the LP. I really hope they work for you and if so, I'll keep trying others
DRHamp
100+ Head-Fier
Those PW are the ones I want to try. Only thing I can do is give them a shot.
Anxious to hear how those turn out for you and hope they are awesome. I would also like to try a pair of those CV2492 as they should be plug and play
TK16
Headphoneus Supremus
CV2492 is just a military designation afaik for E88CC. The military tubes have the 12 o'clock arrow painted on the tubes.Anxious to hear how those turn out for you and hope they are awesome. I would also like to try a pair of those CV2492 as they should be plug and play
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