Monoprice Monolith Liquid Platinum - By Alex Cavalli
Jan 26, 2019 at 5:29 PM Post #1,441 of 5,171
Would agree, particularly the Pro iCan, which I thought was highly unmusical and lacked “soul.”
There is truth in this statement. Not true for the 600i though. It all comes down to pairings, headphones and music genres. Not to mention personal preference.
 
Jan 26, 2019 at 6:10 PM Post #1,442 of 5,171
It does seem to have a lot riding on the chain/synergy.

I'd be curious which DACs are used...I don't think I'd be a fan of the qutest, since I got rid of my Hugo (V1)...it didn't tic the boxes for me (not calling you out or anything, that was the only DAC I recall being mentioned, & I am familiar with the Chord sound to an extent)

. If the LP is that transparent to source, it seems the DAC would make a big(ish) difference.

My iCan Pro is OK for now, but may be upgraded in the future.

I do enjoy my MCTH, but that's also somewhat of a weak link...I bought it for my 1st foray into the tube world.
Also fine for now, but the LP seems like an upgrade in almost every aspect....I must hear one for myself.
 
Jan 26, 2019 at 7:42 PM Post #1,443 of 5,171
There is truth in this statement. Not true for the 600i though. It all comes down to pairings, headphones and music genres. Not to mention personal preference.

Thanks, I’m looking forward to listening to the 600i one of these days. Is the 2C a pretty dark Can?
 
Jan 26, 2019 at 9:04 PM Post #1,444 of 5,171
Jan 27, 2019 at 9:21 PM Post #1,446 of 5,171
Just placed an order for 1.

Has anybody tried the 6CC41/6N2P in the LP? They are a drop in replacement in my other 6922 variant amps and dac. No adapter needed.
This post from @runeight regarding subbing in 6n6p tubes is fairly definitive. Lots of related discussion in subsequent posts.
6.3V at 330mA MAX. You'll need two tubes.

Both heaters and HV are powered by small SMPSs. The plate voltage on and the current in the tubes is controlled regardless of tube type until the auto bias cannot account for the operating point of the tube. Which then means it doesn't behave like a 6922 or close to a 6922.

Pls keep in mind my comments above about how closely the tubes should match a typical 6922.

IIRC, 6N6P is not that close a match to 6922. But I know that many people sub them.
 
Jan 28, 2019 at 8:12 AM Post #1,448 of 5,171
Thanks read that already, was wondering if anybody tried them in the thread.
@ TK16 - Yes! A true tube rolling master, has joined the club. I look forward to seeing all the tubes, you roll through the LP! On another note, I read through the lyr tube rolling thread and found your post about the Brimar CV2492, and I just bought a pair on Ebay, and can't wait to roll them in the LP. I am super happy with the Amperex 7308, but you know how that goes. . .
 
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Jan 28, 2019 at 8:26 AM Post #1,449 of 5,171
@ TK16 - Yes! A true tube rolling master, has joined the club. I look forward to seeing all the tubes, you roll through the LP! On another note, I read through the lyr tube rolling thread and found your post about the Brimar CV2492, and I just bought a pair on Ebay, and can't wait to roll them in the LP. I am super happy with the Amperex 7308, but you know how that goes. . .
They are one of my favorite UK tubes a tier under 6201 Mullard Mitcham and the square getter Mullard Blackburn ECC81. Think you will love them.
 
Jan 28, 2019 at 8:36 AM Post #1,450 of 5,171
Has anybody tried the 6CC41/6N2P in the LP? They are a drop in replacement in my other 6922 variant amps and dac. No adapter needed

Haven't tried them, but my guess is you will have the same problem that I had with 6201/12AT7 - noise likely due to "too high gain". If the "high" gain theory is correct, the 6N2P with a gain of 100 probably won't work, but I look forward to your results, I know you're gonna try it. As I've mentioned before, the 12AU7s with gain < 20 work very well and some are exceptional.
 
Jan 28, 2019 at 8:56 AM Post #1,451 of 5,171
Haven't tried them, but my guess is you will have the same problem that I had with 6201/12AT7 - noise likely due to "too high gain". If the "high" gain theory is correct, the 6N2P with a gain of 100 probably won't work, but I look forward to your results, I know you're gonna try it. As I've mentioned before, the 12AU7s with gain < 20 work very well and some are exceptional.
Seems way too high a gain for the 6N2P/ECC83 (100), the ECC81 series is (60). I'll give my best 6201 a shot in there. But not hopeful.
 
Jan 28, 2019 at 9:06 AM Post #1,452 of 5,171
Seems way too high a gain for the 6N2P/ECC83 (100), the ECC81 series is (60). I'll give my best 6201 a shot in there. But not hopeful

I tried several ECC81 variants including my late 50s Valvo PW 6201 which are near end-game for me in the MJ2, but no joy in the LP. I really hope they work for you and if so, I'll keep trying others
 
Jan 28, 2019 at 9:23 AM Post #1,453 of 5,171
I tried several ECC81 variants including my late 50s Valvo PW 6201 which are near end-game for me in the MJ2, but no joy in the LP. I really hope they work for you and if so, I'll keep trying others
Those PW are the ones I want to try. Only thing I can do is give them a shot. Not even going to try my E180CC PW Heerlen. That have a 400mA heater current iirc. All these other tubes around 300 mark.
 

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