Meze RAI Solo -- Wire Free UPM Dynamic Driver with Metal Injection Sintered Steel Body
Mar 10, 2020 at 10:06 AM Post #121 of 267
My Rai Solo pair just arrived today. I agree with everyone that they're a very solid set of IEMs--they feel like I could drop them without a worry, though being me I'll treat them like they're made of fine china.

Unboxing:


I like how the box has a window that shows off these beautiful buds. But that's not why I bought them.

I noticed that my Comply 400 ear tips didn't fit like they should have. Took a lot of force to get them onto the nozzles even though Comply said they should have fit the Penta (and thus I'd assume these). Maybe Meze can comment on whether the Rai Penta has a different size nozzle? Once I finally got the tips on, I gave them a listen.

I know from other Head-Fi-ers that these take some serious burn-in time, so I put Frost*'s "Falling Satellites" on infinite repeat for a few hours to give them a head start. Falling Satellites, in addition to being one of my favorite albums, has a good range of instrumentation and is well-mixed, so I figured if I picked these up at anytime during burn-in I'd at least have something to enjoy other than pink noise.

[Incidentally, Falling Satellites has on it "Towerblock," which is my soundstage testing song. With a good pair of headphones, it becomes unclear if the building demolition noises the song starts with are coming from across the room or from the headphones (the first time I heard this, it made me jump because I thought something had come crashing down in another room in my house)]

That said, let's throw Towerblock on and see how these handle it. ... Okay, not the best soundstage I've heard, but these are IEMs, not an open set of over-ears. The crash at about 10 seconds in is still reasonably far off to the right. When the song explodes at about 1:35, I can really start hearing some of the nice 3D sound that Jem Godfrey wrote into the mix. The treble spikes I heard earlier today are already fading as I've let these burn in, which is nice because I have awful high-pitched tinnitus. I also notice that the bass is starting to shine a bit more.

Not to mention that with memory foam tips these things are COMFORTABLE! I generally hate IEMs because they irritate my ears badly within a few minutes. I can't deal with silicone ear tips to any extent, and I have gotten rid of numerous pairs of IEMs just because of discomfort. These, I can barely feel once the stainless steel casing warms up a bit. Hopefully I can find a set of memory foam tips that will be easier to put on these.

My one complaint? The cable. It looks and feels ... well, flimsy. It's also dreadfully microphonic, so I'm thinking I'll be using the wonders of the internet to find a good replacement cable.

Overall, I feel like I got my money's worth without even fully burning these in. Capital work, Meze. You've invented the first pair of IEMs that I won't be returning!

Flimsy cable eh! So here's the link on AliEx to Xiaofan cables specifically these cloth covered ones. I have the double braid 8 cores for $38 and don't find them too heavy at all over ear but for $9 less they also have it in 4 core:wink:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000165943464.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4d4gt8p2

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Good luck on whatever your cable choice is:beerchug:

THX at @MezeTeam , I'm holding off on a dedicated tube headphone amp until they stick me in an old folks home :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
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Mar 10, 2020 at 3:58 PM Post #122 of 267
My Rai Solo pair just arrived today. I agree with everyone that they're a very solid set of IEMs--they feel like I could drop them without a worry, though being me I'll treat them like they're made of fine china.

Unboxing:

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I like how the box has a window that shows off these beautiful buds. But that's not why I bought them.

I noticed that my Comply 400 ear tips didn't fit like they should have. Took a lot of force to get them onto the nozzles even though Comply said they should have fit the Penta (and thus I'd assume these). Maybe Meze can comment on whether the Rai Penta has a different size nozzle? Once I finally got the tips on, I gave them a listen.

I know from other Head-Fi-ers that these take some serious burn-in time, so I put Frost*'s "Falling Satellites" on infinite repeat for a few hours to give them a head start. Falling Satellites, in addition to being one of my favorite albums, has a good range of instrumentation and is well-mixed, so I figured if I picked these up at anytime during burn-in I'd at least have something to enjoy other than pink noise.

[Incidentally, Falling Satellites has on it "Towerblock," which is my soundstage testing song. With a good pair of headphones, it becomes unclear if the building demolition noises the song starts with are coming from across the room or from the headphones (the first time I heard this, it made me jump because I thought something had come crashing down in another room in my house)]

That said, let's throw Towerblock on and see how these handle it. ... Okay, not the best soundstage I've heard, but these are IEMs, not an open set of over-ears. The crash at about 10 seconds in is still reasonably far off to the right. When the song explodes at about 1:35, I can really start hearing some of the nice 3D sound that Jem Godfrey wrote into the mix. The treble spikes I heard earlier today are already fading as I've let these burn in, which is nice because I have awful high-pitched tinnitus. I also notice that the bass is starting to shine a bit more.

Not to mention that with memory foam tips these things are COMFORTABLE! I generally hate IEMs because they irritate my ears badly within a few minutes. I can't deal with silicone ear tips to any extent, and I have gotten rid of numerous pairs of IEMs just because of discomfort. These, I can barely feel once the stainless steel casing warms up a bit. Hopefully I can find a set of memory foam tips that will be easier to put on these.

My one complaint? The cable. It looks and feels ... well, flimsy. It's also dreadfully microphonic, so I'm thinking I'll be using the wonders of the internet to find a good replacement cable.

Overall, I feel like I got my money's worth without even fully burning these in. Capital work, Meze. You've invented the first pair of IEMs that I won't be returning!
I personally use cheap ChiFi cables for $25-30, esp bc I run balanced.

Dekoni Bulletz have been my favorite foamies
 
Mar 10, 2020 at 4:15 PM Post #123 of 267
I personally use cheap ChiFi cables for $25-30, esp bc I run balanced.

Dekoni Bulletz have been my favorite foamies

Cheap maybe but also very good, the NICEHCK 16 core is another good one :beerchug: Crazy thing is (of course I realize its because of the cloth outer sheath) but the 16 core NICE is actually smaller than the 8 core Xiaofan however the Xiaofan is not that much heavier:astonished:

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Mar 10, 2020 at 5:05 PM Post #124 of 267
Ah yes, Pod, cheap price wise :D. I've bought a near $200 cable and have had to had it repaired twice and it still had issues unfortunately. Also wasn't flexible like ChiFi cables.
 
Mar 10, 2020 at 11:14 PM Post #125 of 267
I ended up ordering an ISN H16 from Penon because I didn't have the link for the Xiaofan one when I was ordering. Too bad, because I like the colors on the Xiaofan.

Incidentally, I've been using these with an Advanced Accessport Air DAC while I save up for a Dragonfly Cobalt. In other words, between Bluetooth and a cheap DAC I'm probably not getting the full punch from my Rai. They still sound great but I wonder what I'm missing yet.
 
Mar 11, 2020 at 1:09 AM Post #126 of 267
I ended up ordering an ISN H16 from Penon because I didn't have the link for the Xiaofan one when I was ordering. Too bad, because I like the colors on the Xiaofan.

Incidentally, I've been using these with an Advanced Accessport Air DAC while I save up for a Dragonfly Cobalt. In other words, between Bluetooth and a cheap DAC I'm probably not getting the full punch from my Rai. They still sound great but I wonder what I'm missing yet.
What is wrong with the stock cable from Meze, I know it will oxide in a few years but your not going balanced.
Enjoy your headphone and save your money for something else
 
Mar 11, 2020 at 11:52 AM Post #127 of 267
What is wrong with the stock cable from Meze, I know it will oxide in a few years but your not going balanced.
Enjoy your headphone and save your money for something else

I believe his words were flimsy and I tend to agree. Not that you don't have good merit but with the quality of cables being released today (not to mention looks) I think a nice iem can reasonably have a cable a quarter of the iem's price. As mentioned by another user and depending on what you are wearing the Meze cable can be a little micro-phonic :thinking: Here's a very nice supple 16 core balanced cable that cost less than $17 and I know you mentioned saving coin for something else but for a $250 iem $17 seems quite reasonable for a return of killing micro-phonics and maybe even a little beauty enhancement:wink: Alternatives! Variety is the spice O'Life U know:grin:

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Mar 11, 2020 at 12:03 PM Post #128 of 267
Thanks Podster, you said it better than I could.
 
Mar 12, 2020 at 7:31 PM Post #129 of 267
I believe his words were flimsy and I tend to agree. Not that you don't have good merit but with the quality of cables being released today (not to mention looks) I think a nice iem can reasonably have a cable a quarter of the iem's price. As mentioned by another user and depending on what you are wearing the Meze cable can be a little micro-phonic :thinking: Here's a very nice supple 16 core balanced cable that cost less than $17 and I know you mentioned saving coin for something else but for a $250 iem $17 seems quite reasonable for a return of killing micro-phonics and maybe even a little beauty enhancement:wink: Alternatives! Variety is the spice O'Life U know:grin:
Please provide a link to that cool cable. Thanks.
 
Mar 13, 2020 at 11:04 AM Post #131 of 267
Please provide a link to that cool cable. Thanks.

This is the blue cable (also in red) of which I have both in the 8 core:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400...8889a02346928436-1584111108869-00477-VnYZvQVf

and this is the gray 16 core and a tremendous bargain for $10!:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33025713825.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dbGrXQk

I do want to comment that for many the supplied Meze cable may be fine and I don't want to knock it as being a bad cable at all, was just not my cup of tea! As Andy mentioned this hobby is very subjective and each have their own preferences, if your happy with the supplied cable for sure spend those funds on something else you might enjoy :thinking:
 
Mar 14, 2020 at 7:50 AM Post #132 of 267

I truncated the last part of the link for you, this is easier to pass around on net.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000165943464.html?af=240682

When we pick a stock cable for IEM product, we have to consider both audio performance and form factors at the same time. Generally speaking a low profile cable will work better, but we definitely will look into the comments regarding the memory wire and microphonic issue and enhance our cable down the road.
 
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Mar 15, 2020 at 9:56 AM Post #134 of 267
@MezeTeam has the Rai Solo tour been cancelled?

We received enormous response on Rai Solo and we decided to postpone the tour until next production batch. Sorry for the inconvenience caused, will keep the forum updated when we have a firm date again. :beerchug:
 
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Apr 18, 2020 at 5:00 AM Post #135 of 267
Meze Rai Solo Review. A very nice single DD IEM from @MezeTeam
Enjoy & Happy Listening, as always! Most importantly, take care during this global pandemic and stay safe! :)

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