[marekm]

What do you suggest?

That you ditch the "cold" Topping for something warmer. I am happy with iFi ZEN stack: DAC v2 & CAN, but I am a big fan of Burr Brown chips

They sound pretty good on the IFI Hip Dac 2

Of course they do

 

[reg66]

Anyone using their 109's with a tube amp? If so, which amp and do the 109's respond well to a warmer tube sound? If you get what I mean lol...

I've read a few reviews/comments that 109's have a slightly warm sig. Is it too much, overly warm when paired with tube?

Currently got a Tor Audio tube amp on order, can't wait to use my tubes again. Just wondering if the 109's would be a good pairing...

 

[Meze99]

FiiO E10K and Fosi K4 have TI/Burr-Brown DAC chips. Both cost 30-50euros on secondary market and have enough power to drive 300ohm headphones.

 

[ThanatosVI]

Anyone using their 109's with a tube amp? If so, which amp and do the 109's respond well to a warmer tube sound? If you get what I mean lol...

I've read a few reviews/comments that 109's have a slightly warm sig. Is it too much, overly warm when paired with tube?

Currently got a Tor Audio tube amp on order, can't wait to use my tubes again. Just wondering if the 109's would be a good pairing...

Excellent match with Feliks Envy

 

[reg66]

Excellent match with Feliks Envy

Uff, deffo waaay out of my price range... thanks tho. Does the envy have a very clean and detailed sound overall, considering it's tube, but with a touch of tube warmth?

With tube A. I can't afford crazy detailed amps and B. I'm not looking for that with those sort of amps... I've got my NJC reference amp and DAC for relatively detailed, neutral presentation. With tube - ie the Tor - yes, a certain degree of detail is great but I'm looking for warm, coloured, rustic musicality. If that makes sense.

In the hopes that the amp will provide that, do you think these 109's would be a good pairing? I deffo don't want planars for my tube, I'm of the understanding that dynamic play better/represent the tube flavour better...

 

[ThanatosVI]

Does the envy have a very clean and detailed sound overall, considering it's tube, but with a touch of tube warmth?

Yes pretty much that.

I'm looking for warm, coloured, rustic musicality. If that makes sense

Then you should take a look at the Feliks Elise

 

[reg66]

Yes pretty much that.

Then you should take a look at the Feliks Elise

Ahh, cheers Thanatos, but still out of my price range... Maybe one day. I'm a support worker for a disabled guy on a very basic wage. To get a new set of phones I have to sell the current pair. I can only afford 1 pair at a time. For amps n DACs, I've got my NJC and a Tor tube on order. Hopefully that'll do me for a while. But yeah, each item is around the £500 mark. The 109's would be second hand for about the same...

Oh my, think I'm definitely in the wrong hobby for my wage lol

Maybe I should save up and get myself a violin - for the sympathy tones hahaha

 

[iFi audio]

And yet I've not managed to break a single 2.5mm jack...

Maybe I'm to soft on my gear

Although these plugs don't break like crazy, due to their diameter lesser than 3.5mm they're mechanically less robust. They're still perfectly usable of course and in most cases can work well for years.

 

[Soundizer]

Here is a good comparison between Focal Clear OG (faultless sound - warmer side of neutral - with a great background bass room) and Meze 109 (barely audible background bass - colder, sterile side of neutral - upper midrange and treble focused, but more comfortable):

Their price is more or less the same.

I am interested in comparison between 109pro vs FOCAL CLEAR MG.

Any comparison’s available?

Or is the Focal Clear MG PRO an obvious step up in sound quality?

 

[Dragonmilenario]

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[Pythegu]

I am interested in comparison between 109pro vs FOCAL CLEAR MG.

Any comparison’s available?

Or is the Focal Clear MG PRO an obvious step up in sound quality?

So I've tried the Focal Clear MG and didn't like them compared to the Meze. The 109 is able to play WAY louder and handles a little increase in bass well. I actually returned a pair of Clears. I don't like Focal products so I'm incredibly bias. They clip way too easy and the bass is non existent. My own personal experience.

 

[csch92]

how loud is way louder? i couldnt put my meze above 12 a clock on low gain before it got annoying in the treble

 

[Pythegu]

Literally twice. If you put a -3db shelf at and above 10k it takes out all the extra treble that I also find too much.

 

[csch92]

i didn't even bother putting on the pads again on my mezes i enjoy my s2's too much these cans just run so good without eq for me

 

[ostewart]

https://soundperfectionreviews.com/review-meze-audio-109-pro/

Such a lovely pair of headphones