[udauda]

Does NEbody have measured data on any of thos Kenwood MP3s? I really want to know the real specs of Kenwood players. (can't trust the pdfs from Kenwood)

M1Gc7
M2Gc9
hd10Ga7
hd10Gb7
hd10Gb9
hd20Ga7
hd20Gb7
hd30Ga7
hd30Ga9
hd30Gb7
hd30Gb9
etc...

If you're happened to be the owner of thos players, would you like to do the RMAA on the players?????
http://audio.rightmark.org/products/rmaa.shtml

yeah, I know technical specs dont really tell you how devices sound to your ears.

I'm just curious thatz all.

 

[Assorted]

I never knew how to work this with an external dap (yes I've read the guide but it gives no instructions).

If you could explain to me, I would gladly take the measurements.

 

[udauda]

HOW TO DO RMAA:

1. Download & install RMAA & Run RMAA.

2. Set the 'playback/recording devices' according to your system setup.

3. Leave the rest of settings default.

4. Click 'Generate WAV' (diskette icon on the bottom)
& Save wave files to your computer.

5. Load 'Test signal (44 kHz 16-bit).wav' onto the device.
& Make sure you disabled all the EQs and Supreme settings

6. Hook up the output of the source to your soundcard's input.
(in this case, you need to connect your ext DAC's output to your
soundcard's line-in)

7. Click 'Recording Only' button on RMAA. (the big red dot icon)

8. Run 'test signal (44 kHz 16-bit).wav' on the device.

9. Raise the volume until the highest level reaches approx -1 dB.
(make sure the signal doesn't distort due to too much amplication)

10. Click 'Start test' button. & Click OK.

11. Feed the signal. (play the wav file)

12. Save the result.

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To perform the impedance loaded test:
(to see how the device does while driving headphones)

1. Get a headphone splitter: http://www.globalsourcesdirect.com/c...YN-JS5004W.jpg

2. Connect the splitter to your device (or ext DAC output)

3. Hook up any 16(or 32) Ohm earphone/headphone to the splitter.

4. Hook up the cable which connects soundcard to the splitter as well.

5. Do the RMAA.

6. Save the result.

(Alternative instruction: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showpo...9&postcount=35)


This sounds little tricky, but youll get used to it.

 

[Assorted]

Kenwood players don't have a line-out :/

Well that's the thing, I know how to do those things you posted but I thought there's a way to bypass any processing done by the soundcard. Wouldn't the test results be inaccurate since everybody's using different soundcards?

 

[udauda]

Well, Line-out doesnt really matter if you dont use amps, right? Im just curious about the headphone-out of KENWOOD devices.

It seems that you use 'M-Audio Audiophile USB' and that oughta do the job pretty well with a good quality interconneting cable

(if there is S/PDIF or COAX output on your ext DAC, you can use it to feed the signal)

 

[Assorted]

Okay but I'm not sure what you mean by "external DAC" :S

What external DAC should be involved?


I also couldn't reach -1 dB, the highest is -8 dB.

 

[udauda]

Oh I thought you said "external dac," LOL my apologies....

(WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?! LOL)

Well, I think -8dB wouldnt be so bad unless RMAA doesn't recognize the signal. (check the input level if it's set to max)

BTW oh I can't wait to see the result...

I've been looking for the data of KENWOOD devices for a long time- since I want to get one of those for my next DAP.

 

[Assorted]

I'm using my onboard SigmaTel audio right now since I don't have a splitter to use the stereo inputs in the back of my Audiophile USB.

I tried it at -8dB and it didn't recognize it

 

[udauda]

"Dooooh!!"

Maxing both of input & output levels were not enough?
T_T

 

[udauda]

Thnx for taking ur time & effort for me, Assorted.

Is there anybody else who wants to give a shot???

 

[Night Surfer]

I may if I have the spare time this weekend.

 

[udauda]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Night Surfer /img/forum/go_quote.gif I may if I have the spare time this weekend.

YES!!!

You're my savior!

 

[udauda]

Any progress, Night Surfer??

 

[udauda]

Im still looking forward to see the data

 

[udauda]

^bump

I feel like im in the FS/FT forum... LOFL