Lyr 3 - The new Coherence™ and Continuity™ hybrid amplifier from Schiit - Impression & discussion thread

Sep 4, 2022 at 11:50 AM Post #3,181 of 3,386
I’m a happy Lyr 3 owner but I’ll be curious to follow the Lyr+ discussion especially once it’s available. Thanks
Unless you're wanting the remote volume, why not just keep your Lyr 3 OG and just get a LISST SS tube? It's the same SS tech but in an external and removable form-factor.
 
Sep 4, 2022 at 12:04 PM Post #3,182 of 3,386
Unless you're wanting the remote volume, why not just keep your Lyr 3 OG and just get a LISST SS tube? It's the same SS tech but in an external and removable form-factor.
Plus you have the option for dac cards with the lyr 3.
 
Sep 4, 2022 at 2:03 PM Post #3,183 of 3,386
Unless you're wanting the remote volume, why not just keep your Lyr 3 OG and just get a LISST SS tube? It's the same SS tech but in an external and removable form-factor.
That’s exactly my use case. I love nothing better than watching sports with volume off, Schiit gear and headphones on. I’m a whole 3+ meters (call it 10 feet) from my gear, so I bought the Saga OG early on for volume control of Lyr 3 and Jot 2. Lazy man’s volume control for sure. Also have the LISST OG, and willbe getting a couple new ones as well, but I’m blissfully happy with the setup!
 
Sep 4, 2022 at 2:17 PM Post #3,184 of 3,386
Plus you have the option for dac cards with the lyr 3.

I've been contemplating the Lyr+.

Best I can tell, when you compare moving to the Lyr+ from the Lyr 3:

You get:
  • Fusion Architecture for seamless tube and solid state gain (including ability to use the amp with no tube installed)
  • Relay-ladder volume control for perfect channel matching
  • Remote control (volume, input, preamp, tube / solid state, and gain)
  • An additional input (2 instead of 1)

You lose:
  • Ability to install/use modular DAC or phono preamp cards

You trade:
  • Flip switches for push buttons

You keep:
  • Maximum output per channel (e.g., 9W/16ohms, 6W/32ohms, etc)
  • Ability to use your existing 6SN7 and compatible tubes and adapters
  • Ability to have tube gain or SS gain (via LISST)
As always I guess it comes down to the individual's Use Case and/or preferences.
 
Sep 4, 2022 at 5:14 PM Post #3,185 of 3,386
I've been contemplating the Lyr+.

Best I can tell, when you compare moving to the Lyr+ from the Lyr 3:

You get:
  • Fusion Architecture for seamless tube and solid state gain (including ability to use the amp with no tube installed)
  • Relay-ladder volume control for perfect channel matching
  • Remote control (volume, input, preamp, tube / solid state, and gain)
  • An additional input (2 instead of 1)

You lose:
  • Ability to install/use modular DAC or phono preamp cards

You trade:
  • Flip switches for push buttons

You keep:
  • Maximum output per channel (e.g., 9W/16ohms, 6W/32ohms, etc)
  • Ability to use your existing 6SN7 and compatible tubes and adapters
  • Ability to have tube gain or SS gain (via LISST)
As always I guess it comes down to the individual's Use Case and/or preferences.
Very nice summary!
 
Sep 4, 2022 at 6:54 PM Post #3,186 of 3,386
I've been contemplating the Lyr+.

Best I can tell, when you compare moving to the Lyr+ from the Lyr 3:

You get:
  • Fusion Architecture for seamless tube and solid state gain (including ability to use the amp with no tube installed)
  • Relay-ladder volume control for perfect channel matching
  • Remote control (volume, input, preamp, tube / solid state, and gain)
  • An additional input (2 instead of 1)

You lose:
  • Ability to install/use modular DAC or phono preamp cards

You trade:
  • Flip switches for push buttons

You keep:
  • Maximum output per channel (e.g., 9W/16ohms, 6W/32ohms, etc)
  • Ability to use your existing 6SN7 and compatible tubes and adapters
  • Ability to have tube gain or SS gain (via LISST)
As always I guess it comes down to the individual's Use Case and/or preferences.
Well, for very little money, you can, and I did, add an additional RCA input card to Lyr 3. Not to complicate things here… But for my use case, that was a game changer!
 
Sep 4, 2022 at 10:47 PM Post #3,187 of 3,386
@dilbertprogrammer, you also lose the ability to use the current 6J5+6J5 -> 6SN7 adapter by @Deyan - because of the concave surface surrounding the tube socket - hence a special route to fantastic sound.
 
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Sep 5, 2022 at 12:32 AM Post #3,188 of 3,386
Sep 5, 2022 at 12:48 AM Post #3,189 of 3,386
Wait, how about a socket saver?
I had not thought of socket saver plus adapter. It should work - ? possibility of hum due to greater number of pins & socket tubes?
 
Sep 5, 2022 at 1:01 PM Post #3,190 of 3,386
How is the synergy between the Lyr3 amp paired with the Hifiman He1000v2?
 
Sep 5, 2022 at 4:46 PM Post #3,191 of 3,386
How is the synergy between the Lyr3 amp paired with the Hifiman He1000v2?
Caveat: I don’t own HE1000vw, but have and love my planars (Sundara, HE4xx, DCA Ether CX, Aeon2 Open, and Aeon RT closed). With all of the aforementioned cans, Lyr3 absolutely makes them sing. I hope someone with the 1000v2s answers, as I’d like to know as well. HTH.
 
Sep 5, 2022 at 4:47 PM Post #3,192 of 3,386
@dilbertprogrammer, you also lose the ability to use the current 6J5+6J5 -> 6SN7 adapter by @Deyan - because of the concave surface surrounding the tube socket - hence a special route to fantastic sound.
Got a good source for 6J5s Or recommendations? Miight have just ordered one of those adapters…
 
Sep 5, 2022 at 6:37 PM Post #3,194 of 3,386
Got a good source for 6J5s Or recommendations? Miight have just ordered one of those adapters…
My favourite: last pair…
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Sep 5, 2022 at 7:27 PM Post #3,195 of 3,386
Unless you're wanting the remote volume, why not just keep your Lyr 3 OG and just get a LISST SS tube? It's the same SS tech but in an external and removable form-factor.

Yes, I’m planning to keep my Lyr 3 and I might get a LISST at some point just for the fun of it. But I don’t really see myself wanting to play it without a tube very often.
 

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