[ddelu7408]

As a new L3 owner and having used the L3 for two weeks, I have to say, other than a few small bugs,  it's a great music player.  I had an issue with Apple lossless files but just converted them.  I'm told that will be addressed in a future firmware update.  I recently downloaded an album in DSD format and it plays beautifully. I sometimes have a problem with dragging and dropping a whole album over to the player.  It freezes about halfway through.  I have to stop it and restart the process by dragging and dropping one or two files at a time. Then it loads fine.  But, overall, it was a good investment for the promotion price.  I usually use SE535's or B&W C5's with volume to spare.

 

[JohnYang]

  The shuffle function doesn't seems to work right for me, have been using it for half a week and I noticed only the same batch of songs will play (maybe about 100 out of 700+ of my songs?). Sometimes the shuffling won't work too if I skip the song too fast, so it will play the next track from the list instead of random (unless I have such luck that it happened to me almost 10 times in a row even when shuffled correctly)

 
HAHAHAHA about time some one notice this problem.
 
No, it is not your luck, I think there have been people complaining about the algorithm L&P used for shuffle mode. I think they already notice this problem and plan to address it in future.

 

[JohnYang]

Problem is the USB noise from my computer is so bad that I don't think even the audio quest will help much. Might have to get a proper USB power supply like the ifi iUSB3.0

 
Then I guess one of those USB power interface would help, I think Schiit and other brands offer sub-$100 ones.

 

[Jose R]

   
HAHAHAHA about time some one notice this problem.
 
No, it is not your luck, I think there have been people complaining about the algorithm L&P used for shuffle mode. I think they already notice this problem and plan to address it in future.

Isn't this a problem for a multitude of players? I have the same issue with my FiiO DAPs. It just seems they shuffle the same small subset of songs.

 

[Xamdou]

 
Isn't this a problem for a multitude of players? I have the same issue with my FiiO DAPs. It just seems they shuffle the same small subset of songs.

I have a feeling that it might be because of the framework used for the system. I think I have encountered this type of problem once during my student times where randomizing is not really random at all 

 

[nudd]

I have a feeling that it might be because of the framework used for the system. I think I have encountered this type of problem once during my student times where randomizing is not really random at all 

The problem is true randomness is hard to achieve and software uses pseudo random number generators. If the use the same seed is used then the same selection of songs will be chosen, which appears to be random the first time, but will always be the same going forward.

There are ways around this but it is a pretty newbie error...

 

[Xamdou]

I am not a huge expert on this so I can't really comment much myself 

 
But one of the "solution" could be that they do the same why that poweramp and google play music does which is to shuffle/randomize the whole playlist instead of shuffling after every single next/back button press so as to prevent getting back the same song again and again

 

[Whaleshark12]

For the L3 Balance output. Is it the same termination as this? http://www.head-fi.org/t/704698/lightbox/post/10784068/id/1168146 AK240 balance output

 

[twister6]

  For the L3 Balance output. Is it the same termination as this? http://www.head-fi.org/t/704698/lightbox/post/10784068/id/1168146 AK240 balance output

 
Yes, A&K style 2.5mm TRRS termination.

 

[Ultrainferno]

   
HAHAHAHA about time some one notice this problem.
 
No, it is not your luck, I think there have been people complaining about the algorithm L&P used for shuffle mode. I think they already notice this problem and plan to address it in future.

 
Yeah, I reported it with the L5Pro as well. Some days it's a good playlist, other days not so 

 

 
Isn't this a problem for a multitude of players? I have the same issue with my FiiO DAPs. It just seems they shuffle the same small subset of songs.

 
The Cayin N5 shows the same behaviour, I can't say it is noticeable that much with any of my other players (about 15)

 

[Whaleshark12]

   
Yes, A&K style 2.5mm TRRS termination.

Thanks for the clarification~

 

[Cryok95]

Have you guys tried DSD on the L3 yet?

 

[Xamdou]

  Have you guys tried DSD on the L3 yet?

Most of my DSD works for me only a couple of them had error playing

 

[JohnYang]

  Most of my DSD works for me only a couple of them had error playing

 
L3 only support DSD64 and DSD128 for now, could you be playing DSD256 or DSD with multiple channels(if thats a thing)?

 

[Xamdou]

L3 only support DSD64 and DSD128 for now, could you be playing DSD256 or DSD with multiple channels(if thats a thing)?

Mine should only be in DSD64 & DSD128 since mora only sell those. I think those that I had problem was in DSD128.

Edit:
Seems like a DSD256 was mixed into my album >_<