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Jul 2, 2020 at 6:32 AM Post #526 of 2,329
Well I don’t know your situation, but I can assure you that for me I can adjust my Tidal app volume both on my S1 and my v30. I hope you can get your situation sorted out.


And when you adjust volume on the phone itself or using other streaming services like spotify ? I do not use Tidal and from my end I can control volume only by pressing S1 buttons....Increasing volume on phone/apps does nothing
 
Jul 2, 2020 at 7:41 AM Post #527 of 2,329
And when you adjust volume on the phone itself or using other streaming services like spotify ? I do not use Tidal and from my end I can control volume only by pressing S1 buttons....Increasing volume on phone/apps does nothing

“And when you adjust volume on the phone itself” - yes, while playing music using Tidal app I can adjust the volume on my LG v30 using the phone’s side volume hardware buttons and the volume does adjust (while the displayed S1 volume value remains at the same number). Separately I can also adjust the volume with the buttons on the S1. Both phone and S1 independently can adjust volume for any combination of volume setting I want.

I have only tried this on Tidal and Audible and they both work the same. I will have to try with other apps, but since I don’t actually use other music apps I haven’t gotten around to trying Spotify. Maybe others can answer your question before I can

Good Luck!
 
Jul 2, 2020 at 1:41 PM Post #529 of 2,329
And when you adjust volume on the phone itself or using other streaming services like spotify ? I do not use Tidal and from my end I can control volume only by pressing S1 buttons....Increasing volume on phone/apps does nothing
By the way also validated I can independently adjust volume on phone and S1 on Tidal, Pandora, and Audible. I haven’t been able to try yet with Spotify, but based on these three I can safely say that at least for me I have no issues with my Android LG v30 and S1 independently adjusting volume on either.
 
Jul 2, 2020 at 2:09 PM Post #530 of 2,329
Lucky you...I can confirm that neither iphones/macbooks volume button works.. I was only able to control volume via browser on youtube with my mac.
Maybe there are other iphone users that can share their inputs using streaming services.
 
Jul 2, 2020 at 5:06 PM Post #531 of 2,329
Lucky you...I can confirm that neither iphones/macbooks volume button works.. I was only able to control volume via browser on youtube with my mac.
Maybe there are other iphone users that can share their inputs using streaming services.
My guess, only guess... Android vs iOS.

I just tried this on my iPad. Definitely can not adjust the volume on my iPad, only the S1. So I think different functionality between Android vs iOS devices might be the difference.

I do hope this gets sorted out for you, and all other Apple owners!
 
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Jul 2, 2020 at 5:13 PM Post #532 of 2,329
Ha ha it does work with m0, lol now thats a mini hi fi system there. Lotoo, a case please. On a side note, my dogs just fart bombed me.

I think I'm going to Ralph :dizzy_face:


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Jul 2, 2020 at 5:32 PM Post #533 of 2,329
Based on my testing with laptop (Thinkpad, Win10) and majority of DAPs, you can only adjust the volume from S1. The exception was my Galaxy S9 phone, and Hiby R5 and Cayin N6ii daps where I was able to adjust the volume both from S1 and the host. But not all Android based DAPs acted that way, iBasso DX220 and Shanling M6 volume adjustment was only from S1.

Also, per previous discussion of converting S1 to wireless, Hiby R3 Pro and Hidizs AP80 Pro work great but there is one interesting phenomenon, maybe related to both running Hiby OS. If you try to change the volume from R3 Pro or AP80 Pro while connected to S1, it crashes the DAP.
 
Jul 2, 2020 at 5:45 PM Post #534 of 2,329
Can't adjust volume on Q1 or m0 either. But galaxy 10e works. R3p saber and ap80 don't work either- volume on unit. Technically it shouldn't work if its just passing digital bit perfect output.

What's cool is you can use hiby link or synclink with hiby and shanling music apps to control the dap from your phone whilst it's hooked up to S1.
 
Jul 2, 2020 at 6:09 PM Post #535 of 2,329
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Based on my testing with laptop (Thinkpad, Win10) and majority of DAPs, you can only adjust the volume from S1. The exception was my Galaxy S9 phone, and Hiby R5 and Cayin N6ii daps where I was able to adjust the volume both from S1 and the host. But not all Android based DAPs acted that way, iBasso DX220 and Shanling M6 volume adjustment was only from S1.

Also, per previous discussion of converting S1 to wireless, Hiby R3 Pro and Hidizs AP80 Pro work great but there is one interesting phenomenon, maybe related to both running Hiby OS. If you try to change the volume from R3 Pro or AP80 Pro while connected to S1, it crashes the DAP.
Thanks. I have limited number of devices to test with. Adjusting volume on both source and S1 is possible when using my LG v30 and my R6 Pro (both Android), but I can only adjust volume on the S1 when using my iPad.
 
Jul 2, 2020 at 7:24 PM Post #537 of 2,329
Lucky you...I can confirm that neither iphones/macbooks volume button works.. I was only able to control volume via browser on youtube with my mac.
Maybe there are other iphone users that can share their inputs using streaming services.
The fact that you CAN'T adjust volume on your iOS device is a GOOD thing. The reason you can't is because iOS sends out a bit-perfect signal to the usb device. In Android, the audio is being processed by the Android audio stack and the Android filters are handling the audio signal before it reaches the DAC.
 
Jul 2, 2020 at 7:33 PM Post #538 of 2,329
The fact that you CAN'T adjust volume on your iOS device is a GOOD thing. The reason you can't is because iOS sends out a bit-perfect signal to the usb device. In Android, the audio is being processed by the Android audio stack and the Android filters are handling the audio signal before it reaches the DAC.
Huh... hadn’t thought of that...!

You can still get the same result with UAPP on Android devices - will bypass the Android audio stack.
 
Jul 2, 2020 at 8:45 PM Post #539 of 2,329
Anyone using an andromeda their S1? Curious to see how it sound since it’s such a sensitive iem.

If your concern is hissing - there is none.
 

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