Looking for something like the Beyerdynamic dt 770

[Judgment]

I bought the Beyerdynamic dt 770 / (2005 consumer edtion) used, and they weren't in top condition. The drivers were full of hair and even after a complete cleanup they buzzed a little on some low frequences. I accidently stepped on their cord yesterday and detached the cables from the left driver. After soldering them back together I noticed I had also cut the tiny copper wires that go into the driver. (They are beyond repair, aren't they?)

So I'm in need for a new pair of headphones with the following attributes:

Cost less than 600 euro
Closed back (for sound isolation, also increases bass response?)
Comfortable even after 5 hour + listening sessions (I loved the Velour pads of the dt770)
Natural sound with aggressive bass response.

My musical tastes: drum & bass, hardstyle trance, progessive metal and classical/neoclassical music. I also play guitar and keyboard synth, so the headphones should be also good for monitoring uses.
I'm using the Sony STR-DG700 A/V receiver as the amp, it should be quite decent.
Or should I just order a new pair of dt770s?

 

[The Uam]

Do you have an amp?

 

[Judgment]

Yes i'm using an A/V receiver.

 

[leeperry]

get it in 600Ω

w/ the Essence STX, The Travel The Galaxy CD from Ed Rush & Optical simply sounds awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGp-ng_7qPM

the higher the impedance, the faster the beyer are....and DNB needs very fast drivers!

but well, The AT A900 looks nice too, just need something clear and fast for DNB IMHO.

 

[The Uam]

A couple great headphones that suite you need are...
1. Ultrasone Hifi-780, I hear these are great for Trance and Metal... (They need to be fitted with velor pads to be comfortable...)
2. Dennon AD2000, great textured bass
3. Beyerdynamic DT770, A classic can't go wrong...

Those are the Bass 3...

 

[tdogzthmn]

What about the DT150, I think its sound is warmer and superior to the DT770 which was a bit harsh for my taste.

 

[Judgment]

The DT150 looks very uncomfortable. Ultrasone Hifi-780 seems to be quite fragile and uncomfortable with synthetic leather pads.

Denon AH-D2000 might be a better choice.. but is 25ohm impedance enough?

 

[tdogzthmn]

The DT150 will not win a comfort award but it has quite good SQ compared to the DT770

 

[prinz]

DT-880 are one of the most neutral headphones available.
They are quite easy to drive and they cost less than 200$.

Creative Aurvana live with conducfil sonolene or Cordial CPK220 cable.

 

[YGingras]

If you want closed back because you want isolation, the DT 770 are hard to beat. The Pro edition has more isolation and more bass but their sound is less detailed so it may or may not be a good pick depending on what you are looking for. Have considered IEMs?

 

[Judgment]

In ear monitors are lost easily, because of their size. They also aren't that good for your hearing, especially after long listening sections.

Main issues atm:

1) Are my dt770s beyond repair? (Broken copper wires that go into the driver)
2) Is the impedance of the denon ah-d2000 too low? (25 ohm)
3) Should I consider getting a real headphone amplifier even tho I have the A/V receiver?
4) Does the closed back structure give you better bass response?

 

[driftingbunnies]

1. No, you can always recable it which means opening it up and using new cables that you've bought and resoldering it.
2. no such thing as "too low" unless you have a headphone amp that does better with high impedance cans.
3. yes, especially for the 600 ohms. usually A/V receivers have bad headphone amps. that's usually the thing manufactures don't really care about.
4. yes it usually does.

 

[Ishcabible]

1) No, the voice coil is repairable, just I don't recommend it if you're not experienced. I think Germania has done it. Ask her for advice. She's just one off the top of my head. I'd wager about 50 other people here know how to do it.

4) Generally, that is the consensus. There are a few exceptions, like the Lambda Pro (fwir, don't take my word on this).

^ I think he's talking about the voice coil.

 

[YGingras]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judgment /img/forum/go_quote.gif In ear monitors are lost easily, because of their size. They also aren't that good for your hearing, especially after long listening sections.

I'm not trying to convince you that you should go with IEMs since I also like closed cans but I think that you are mistaken on the risk of using them. Several studies have shown that portable headphones can induce hearing loss:

Interventions to reduce high-volume portable heads...[J Appl Behav Anal. 1991] - PubMed Result
[Decrease of hearing acuity from use of portable h...[Nippon Koshu Eisei Zasshi. 1990] - PubMed Result
Noise-induced hearing loss and portable radios wit...[Int J Pediatr Otorhinolaryngol. 1985] - PubMed Result
[and many others]

However, these studies were on ipod style buds or on old walkman style portable headphone. They all conclude that the main problem with portable headphones is the lack of isolation which motivates the user to crank-up the volume in order to get good sound reproduction. IEMs will typically isolate from 15 to 22 dB, which is more that the most isolating closed cans. To give you a sense of scale, the ear muffs that I use at the shooting range are rated 25 dB. You don't need to crank up the volume with good IEMs because they cut the ambient noises extremely well.