[obobskivich]

merlin, while all of this is good and fine, a "better" cable won't do anything, because it isn't really "better", it just costs more

 

[MerlinWerks]

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Originally Posted by obobskivich /img/forum/go_quote.gif merlin, while all of this is good and fine, a "better" cable won't do anything, because it isn't really "better", it just costs more

Agreed, but since it was brought up a couple of times, I mainly wanted to point out that data transfer for USB audio is typically not the same as sending data to a HDD or printer, there is no error correction. The exception I believe is the EMU 0404 which uses custom drivers and firmware to do bulk mode transfers

 

[obobskivich]

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Originally Posted by MerlinWerks /img/forum/go_quote.gif Agreed, but since it was brought up a couple of times, I mainly wanted to point out that data transfer for USB audio is typically not the same as sending data to a HDD or printer, there is no error correction. The exception I believe is the EMU 0404 which uses custom drivers and firmware to do bulk mode transfers

so the details are implementation specific, based on that, meaning there isn't a single exception, nor is there a single rule.

not to mention, stating facts like this is dangerous in threads like this, because people will then start claiming "my $500 cable improves this transfer" when in reality, its just improving the pocket size of someone cold enough to mark something up ~$499

 

[MerlinWerks]

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Originally Posted by obobskivich /img/forum/go_quote.gif so the details are implementation specific, based on that, meaning there isn't a single exception, nor is there a single rule.

Sorry, as I read it a few people were under the impression that transferring USB audio data is the same as transferring data to a usb HDD and as best as I can tell 99% of the time it is not.

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not to mention, stating facts like this is dangerous in threads like this, because people will then start claiming "my $500 cable improves this transfer" when in reality, its just improving the pocket size of someone cold enough to mark something up ~$499

That is going to happen anyway and having a few extra facts may be our best defense against that $499 markup

 

[fallsroad]

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Originally Posted by MerlinWerks /img/forum/go_quote.gif That is going to happen anyway and having a few extra facts may be our best defense against that $499 markup

Dear MerlinWerks,

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Anything less would be uncivilized.

 

[ack-fin]

http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/pcaudio/messages/2/28679.html
 
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Originally Posted by HeadLover /img/forum/go_quote.gif I know, but still want something with great quality.

I'll sell you a Belkin for £450,000.It's computer data protocol, there is no difference between a £1.50 USB cable and a £500. If you want to throw money away, give it to me and I'll buy a Oppo 83 BD player. At least it'll go to good use.If you want to buy Audiophile USB, why not Audiophile SATA cables? And PATA? You'll also need "Audiophile" RJ45 cables $500 for 1M.http://media.audiojunkies.com/denon-...able-wire-.jpg Quote:

It is a digital signal. As long as it (the data) is getting there it does not matter AT ALL.

It is digital but it's different to digital audio streams such as PCM over coaxial or optical. The data in USB (or indeed firewire, PATA, SATA) has error correction. PCM stream does not. I've offered anyone who can pick out the "Audiophile" USB cable over a £1.50 one my 50" Pioneer LX-5090. I've had no PM's requesting for my tele :-D

 

 

[output555]

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It is a digital signal. As long as it is a decent usb cable it will sound like any other. You are sending data. As in 1s and 0s.

Not true. 1s and 0s notwithstanding, better cables make better audio. This is an empirical fact, tested and proven by human ears...mine and a gazillion others.

 

[Omnirai]

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Not true. 1s and 0s notwithstanding, better cables make better audio. This is an empirical fact, tested and proven by human ears...mine and a gazillion others.

Not sure if serious
 
 
 
or terrible troll

 

 

[dwinnert]

The only time a "high end" USB cable might make a difference is if you try to exceed 5 meters. If you need a one meter cable, you are just throwing money away.Better to get a cheap cable from Monoprice and can of gold spray paint....maybe a Bedazzler or some glitter, and pretend you spent a crap load of money.

 

[lipidsnake]

USB is digital, the quality of the cable does not matter unless its so bad it registers 0s as 1s instead. Even if the quality isn't great theres no way the computer will have difficulty distinguishing between the two simple signals. Its the actually analog cable from your device to your headphones that you should be more worried about

 

[Bloodoath]

As others have said and I'll say, get a good well made USB cable and you should be fine.  Its important to remember the cable is carrying voltage swings not 1's and 0's.  The better its construction the better and clearer the signal to your equipment.  There's a limit to how much improvement you can get so spending an outrageous amount on one is a waste. I use the monster advanced USB cable which can be found for under $20.00 now.  Better than standard cable, but nothing off the wall either.

 

[gkl]

The thread is 2 years old. I'm sure the OP already has gotten a cable.

 

[output555]

 
 
"Not sure if serious or terrible troll"
 
Serious and with more actual listening experience than most "1s and 0s" who refer to a textbook rather than their ears when debating digital cables.
 

 

[tmars78]

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"Not sure if serious or terrible troll"
 
Serious and with more actual listening experience than most "1s and 0s" who refer to a textbook rather than their ears when debating digital cables.
 

What does this even mean? If you know how a digital cable works, there is no need to use your ears. As it will either work, or you'll get artifacts in your music. You certainly won't get tight bass and light, airy highs. 
 

 

[gkl]

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"Not sure if serious or terrible troll"
 
Serious and with more actual listening experience than most "1s and 0s" who refer to a textbook rather than their ears when debating digital cables.
 

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