Logitech MX510 Gaming Mouse

Apr 15, 2004 at 3:02 AM Post #16 of 31
Yeah, I'm leaning towards the fUnc 1030 in Orange/Blue. It has to be better than my Hyper Pad and 3Com pad.

Any other pads I should consider?
 
Apr 15, 2004 at 3:30 AM Post #17 of 31
Tomshardware did a mousing surface roundup, but they tried a bunch that are not very well known at all, and none of them seemed very good to me. If I was on a faster connection, I'd hunt up a link for you.
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Apr 15, 2004 at 5:12 AM Post #18 of 31
I recently purchased a razer viper and returned it. Why? I loved the shape and design of the mouse, but it's plagued by tracking problems. Seems razer forgot to mention on their website that the viper is made for high-sensitivity users. I had problems doing a 90 degree turn in most of my FPS games, the mouse would flip out. Keep in mind it takes about 8 inches of mousepad space for me to do a 180 degree turn in most of my games; without mouse acceleration.

I would've bought the mx510 in a heartbeat if not for the shape
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, I can never get around to placing my ring finger on top of the mouse.

edit: heres the link for the TH mousepad roundup radrd mentioned

http://www6.tomshardware.com/game/20040403/index.html
 
Apr 15, 2004 at 5:30 AM Post #19 of 31
I would have to say that the MX510 would be better if you plan on gaming. Wireless mice, though nice significantly respond slower.
 
Apr 15, 2004 at 5:53 AM Post #21 of 31
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Originally posted by gsferrari
I think mousepads also make a HUGE difference.
I use the Ratpadz GS (no - nothing to do with me
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) mousepad and it really helps my gaming performance...

it makes a HUGE difference...trust me on this...a dedicated high end mousepad like the Ratpadz is the biggest upgrade us MX-500 users can make for cheap.

Try it!! I think you can order it from newegg for $14.00

beats paying $20.00 for some gell filled P.O.S


That's true. I've seen many people suing expensive mices with a crappy mousepad or even without.

I have 3M (Precise Mousing Surface) mousepad. The surface is very smooth, the only problem was a galaxy theme picture on it. The white points ("stars") caused mismatch of the optical sensor of my MX-700. So I dyed it black and no problem.
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Apr 15, 2004 at 6:00 AM Post #22 of 31
np

As for the mousepad, I wouldn't put too much emphasis on it. There are only really two types of mousepad(imo):

cloth - those types you normally find bundled with computers. There are quite a few "gamer" clothpads also.

plastic/steel/glass whatever: slicker than cloth, but higher maintenance and more costly.

I personally prefer cloth pads to plastic, feels more consistant and gives me more control.
 
Apr 15, 2004 at 6:27 AM Post #23 of 31
Interesting "review" on THG indeed. They scratched the Icemat? I guess I've been extra careful, it's still in perfect condition after over 2 years of use.

While I like the Icemat myself, it does have some downfalls. Aside from the sound it produces, the mouse can stick if there's so much as a single hair on the pad, so it's necessary to wipe it clean every now and then. Or just wash the thing. Also it's pretty much necessary to use teflon tape or whatever to keep the mouse feet intact. Smooth as it may be, the glass surface is hard and will wear down the mouse feet eventually.
 
Apr 15, 2004 at 7:30 AM Post #24 of 31
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Originally posted by mxs1030
np

As for the mousepad, I wouldn't put too much emphasis on it. There are only really two types of mousepad(imo):

cloth - those types you normally find bundled with computers. There are quite a few "gamer" clothpads also.

plastic/steel/glass whatever: slicker than cloth, but higher maintenance and more costly.

I personally prefer cloth pads to plastic, feels more consistant and gives me more control.


Well, it should be emphasised. Well designed surface make your move smoother and more more precise. The cheapest mousepads usually creates humps and after couple of days. The surface adhesion is very weak, I especially hate when the mousepad moves together with my mouse.

Here are the details of my mousepad. Its micro-groove surface works very fine, very smooth, and I like the gel wrist rest as well.
 
Apr 15, 2004 at 9:17 AM Post #25 of 31
The sUrface 1030 is the best I've used, and I've tried a lot. It's like they took the good old 3m PMS and improved upon it in every way possible.

Put some teflon tape on the mouse feet and you can forget about them wearing down.
 
Apr 15, 2004 at 10:43 AM Post #26 of 31
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Originally posted by radrd
From what I have read, the fUnc mouse pad seems to be the best.

I currently have an Everglide pad that, uh, does not glide forever. It's worn out some in the middle and my mouse doesn't move as easily. I've had it for two years though. I'm going to try a fUnc pad next unless someone can recommend something better.


I had the Everglide giganta before, now im using the fUnc mousepad and the fUnc is better IMO. My mouse is currently the MX500 w/ $1 mousesktaz from everglide, I have not found a smoother combo
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edit: Dansdata.com has a good review about the fUnc & other mousepads. Check his site out.
 
Apr 15, 2004 at 2:43 PM Post #27 of 31
Quote:

Originally posted by radrd
From what I have read, the fUnc mouse pad seems to be the best.

I currently have an Everglide pad that, uh, does not glide forever. It's worn out some in the middle and my mouse doesn't move as easily. I've had it for two years though. I'm going to try a fUnc pad next unless someone can recommend something better.


You're right, I did wear out my first Attack pad in about two-three years. What I did though was buy a new optical pad and then one or two more out of their grabbag of Attacks. Got a cool Quake III logo'd Attack Pad for $3 that way to keep as backup.
 
Apr 15, 2004 at 5:02 PM Post #28 of 31
Try something like this in your XF86Config, it allows me to use a usb and ps2 mouse concurrently:

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "DevInputMice" "AlwaysCore"
EndSection

#....rest of config

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/psaux"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
Option "Resolution" "1200"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# If the normal CorePointer mouse is not a USB mouse then
# this input device can be used in AlwaysCore mode to let you
# also use USB mice at the same time.
Identifier "DevInputMice"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "imPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
#Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
Option "Resolution" "1200"
EndSection
 
Apr 15, 2004 at 6:54 PM Post #29 of 31
I am surprise so many models are now offering a glass surface as a mouse pad. I wonder if they work best with optical mice.

Razer mice have been designed for people who want high sensitivity - more like twitching the mouse. I have used their older mice before and I found it to be too sensitive too. Its nice to know that Razer managed to build a really sensitive optical mouse.

MichaelFranks - Thanks for XF86Config file to support both mouse. I once configured XF86Config to scan for both mouse and it would take a minute to find the USB mouse.
 
Apr 15, 2004 at 7:18 PM Post #30 of 31
Oh yeah, another piece of advice, if you are using an optical, ditch the pad and just tape down a heavy sheet of white paper. Nothing can beat it, I promise!

I am using the logitech dual optical, which has yet to be beaten IMO. (Though I haven't tried the latest generation). You just can't beat the dual tracking, eliminated all optical accrued anomalys.
 

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