Little Dot MK VI / Little Dot MK VIII SE Owners Unite
Mar 31, 2022 at 4:21 AM Post #2,716 of 2,724
I really like my collection of refurbished vintage Yamaha planers. But they need power to sound their best. The Little Dot, along with the incredible Melos SHA-1 and my monster Headroom Desktop Home Balanced w/ dac, all have the power to drive those planers without damaging them (or being damaged by them!)

It’s too bad the Melos doesn’t have balanced outputs – planers have always sounded better to me, when driven balanced.
 
Oct 15, 2022 at 3:35 PM Post #2,718 of 2,724
I find that the Hd800s is a lot less picky about the amp than people make out however it is very picky about the music quality, it hates bad recordings, unfortunately the headphone will not be great for every song no matter what amp you use, i found that it can go from sublime to downright horrible
 
Jan 17, 2023 at 5:55 PM Post #2,719 of 2,724
I believe your repair shop guy was 100% correct. The regulator power transistors were an older version, that was discontinued for a much stronger one, which they never upgraded to. They don't even sell those old transistors anymore. Also the zener diode was a very low wattage so couldn't handle a problem if transistors failed. Then we have metal film resistors that should never been in a PSU. They should have had power resistors or wire wound.

The issue is that China is a very, very competitive market and they must cut every corner they can to be cost competitive. They did have some better resistors in older units but stopped that. Then we have issues of the anode resistors to start slowly burning with age because they are not high enough wattage. Today's market you can place physically smaller resistors that can handle double 5w no problem.

Bottom line is that the design was genius, but some of the critical parts used, was poor. Once you fix the PSU, there is basically nothing else that would fail.

My guess is that the super cheap and brittle stranded wire, that is used for the regulator transistors broke, causing failure. Also, if you have the MK6, that is more prone for the transistor issues.
I never had the transistor issues with my MK8se (less output power) and still have the old transistors, but I already bought the backup transistors which are a set. You can't buy one, you must buy both.

Parts for this was cheap. You can order them on "Mouser" website, so I'm not understanding why it would cost $300, so I'm assuming that it is labor.

Also I would get higher wattage diode for replacement.
In the Mod thread, we basically revamp most of the power supply anyways, replacing all that.
Anyways, remember to tell the repair shop about replacing those brittle transistor regulator wires to the board.

If this amp was done properly, with highest grade components, it would easily reach playing field with end-game amps.
As is, the stock performance is nicely mid-tier.
But this can be also said with 100% of ALL tube amps in the market. I have seen all the top units. I have worked on them. They could all be improved. None uses the best parts.
That's on the owner to do.

The ONLY tube amps, that are almost 100% NOT dependant on parts quality, is the designs by member @SonicTrance



Yes the MK6 can be susceptible to PSU strain with power tube rolling, or defective tube pops, or the dam internal wiring of the two regulator power transistors, sadly.

Recommendation is to not use stock tubes and use good tubes. And do not move unit around. Eventuality with age the anode resistors increase in value and any power surges are less, so the PSU doesn't fail except for heat and wire corrode. That would take some years.

Once you fix the issues it is a very reliable unit.
Up to you to fix. Then the next owner will enjoy. 😅
I appreciate the reply. I kind of just fell off the planet cause of covid.
Now that things are returning to normal, I'm going to pursue this again. If my local repair shop won't/can't do this, I may have to look at shipping this thing to someone who can look into it.

The LD customer support has been ghosting me since this occurred so I don't expect them to reply despite my attempt trying to reach them a few weeks ago again.

Again, I appreciate your response and wisdom, since my rage post I haven't bothered looking into audio stuff.
 
Jan 25, 2023 at 4:07 PM Post #2,720 of 2,724
Nobody in my area seems to be willing to take this project on :frowning2:
Does anyone know who could help/guide me to someone who can in Canada?

EDIT: (Anyone who has worked with said individual before)
 
Jan 25, 2023 at 4:20 PM Post #2,721 of 2,724
Nobody in my area seems to be willing to take this project on :frowning2:
Does anyone know who could help/guide me to someone who can in Canada?

EDIT: (Anyone who has worked with said individual before)
Nobody in my area seems to be willing to take this project on :frowning2:
Does anyone know who could help/guide me to someone who can in Canada?

EDIT: (Anyone who has worked with said individual before)
I feel your pain mine has just died a death too, have you tried what Maxx134 says by trying to find an electronics student, maybe google electronics courses in local colleges, I'm lucky enough to have a guy not far from me that specialises in tubes but unfortunately I'm in London, UK, I would be happy to help but it would probably cost too much to send it here and back with customs fees etc and we don't know what he'll find, little dot customer service is zero and it's no surprise with the quality control.
 
Jan 27, 2023 at 12:59 PM Post #2,722 of 2,724
I feel your pain mine has just died a death too, have you tried what Maxx134 says by trying to find an electronics student, maybe google electronics courses in local colleges, I'm lucky enough to have a guy not far from me that specialises in tubes but unfortunately I'm in London, UK, I would be happy to help but it would probably cost too much to send it here and back with customs fees etc and we don't know what he'll find, little dot customer service is zero and it's no surprise with the quality control.
I’m sorry to hear man. Yeah LD has been ghosting me for many years now lol.
I recently got a response from someone at least in my Province but he’s looking at $500-$1000 to upgrade what Maxx134 mentioned back when.
I think scrapping this/selling it for parts on ebay and investing in a WA22 or something is looking like the better decision more and more…
 
Jan 27, 2023 at 1:49 PM Post #2,723 of 2,724
I’m sorry to hear man. Yeah LD has been ghosting me for many years now lol.
I recently got a response from someone at least in my Province but he’s looking at $500-$1000 to upgrade what Maxx134 mentioned back when.
I think scrapping this/selling it for parts on ebay and investing in a WA22 or something is looking like the better decision more and more…
Yep, judging by this I don't think they'll be in business much longer, the new Cayin amps look pretty good HA-3A and the big brother HA-6A
 
Jan 27, 2023 at 8:27 PM Post #2,724 of 2,724
Yep, judging by this I don't think they'll be in business much longer, the new Cayin amps look pretty good HA-3A and the big brother HA-6A
Ooo they look really good. I'll take a peek since they've always had some solid stuff.
Thanks mate!
 

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