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Feb 15, 2019 at 5:58 AM Post #181 of 1,802
So, i rolled in a Brimar CV2492, last night instead of the Philips E188CC. So far i am loving what i am hearing! Even with only 10 hours on them, listening this morning, things are quite different, than the Amperex 7308. So far the stage is wider, and there is more air in the mids. Immediately things are more relaxed and a little further away. I have more control on the volume, and can go a little higher, due to things being more relaxed. I am hearing a more organic sound. This tube is like a warm breath of fresh air. This is the tube for bass, and reminds me of the WE396A, in a lot of ways. I will report more after proper burn in.

Edit - it also got a lot easier to take the tubes in and out, with the 3rd roll.
 
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Feb 15, 2019 at 8:11 AM Post #182 of 1,802
So, i rolled in a Brimar CV2492, last night instead of the Philips E188CC. So far i am loving what i am hearing! Even with only 10 hours on them, listening this morning, things are quite different, than the Amperex 7308. So far the stage is wider, and there is more air in the mids. Immediately things are more relaxed and a little further away. I have more control on the volume, and can go a little higher, due to things being more relaxed. I am hearing a more organic sound. This tube is like a warm breath of fresh air. This is the tube for bass, and reminds me of the WE396A, in a lot of ways. I will report more after proper burn in.

Edit - it also got a lot easier to take the tubes in and out, with the 3rd roll.
These Brimar CV2492 are my favorite 6922 variant when it comes to UK tubes, the 50's Blackburn ECC81 are a fantastic tube, but cannot be used in the LP. The Blackburn/Mitcham ECC82 are incredible and just need an adapter to work in the LP.
 
Feb 15, 2019 at 8:22 AM Post #183 of 1,802
These Brimar CV2492 are my favorite 6922 variant when it comes to UK tubes, the 50's Blackburn ECC81 are a fantastic tube, but cannot be used in the LP. The Blackburn/Mitcham ECC82 are incredible and just need an adapter to work in the LP.
Good to know! I am gonna add those to my list of tubes to get. This is my first UK tube, and I am diggin the sound. I have always been a fan, of a warm ss, so these tubes are right up my alley. I can't believe it has taken me this long to try one. I am glad I bought a back up pair of the Brimar CV2492 :L3000:
 
Feb 15, 2019 at 7:00 PM Post #185 of 1,802
Love those TS! I got a few pairs of those, that i will never sell. I bet they would sound incredible in the LP!
 
Feb 15, 2019 at 8:49 PM Post #187 of 1,802
The Blackburn/Mitcham ECC82 are incredible and just need an adapter to work in the LP.
Same adapter as for the 396A or different adapter?
 
Feb 20, 2019 at 8:17 AM Post #190 of 1,802
Finally got the Brimar CV2492 burned in and in one word, WOW!

Compared to the Amperex 7308 - The Brimar CV2492, has better extension in the bass. The bass hits harder, deeper and more textured. With my Ori headphones, I am getting some insane bass and could not ask for more. The mids on the Brimar are a touch warmer and further back, but are still very present. The air in the mids is the first thing that caught my attention, and this really helps to open things up, compared to the Amperex 7308. The highs are another thing that surprised me, as they are more extended than the Amperex 7308, but are never harsh and have just the right amount of sparkle. I am hearing the most 3 d like sound, that I have heard yet. The sound stage is also taller and wider, than on the Amperex 7308. The sound is clean and warm at the same time, and reminds me of the ZMF house sound. The tone is very lifelike on the Brimar and not better than the Amperex, but just different. The Amperex is a bit more dynamic and punchy, with amazing mids, but lacks the extension (on both ends) and warmth of the Brimar. Both tubes are really really good in the LP and I could see different people preferring one over the other. Another thing to note, is that I have better range with the volume, due to the slightly relaxed and open sound of the Brimar. Also, if you have heard the WE396A, this tube is the only 6922 variant, that has sounded as good and similar. All in all, I have found my tube and love the warm, airy, big and resolving sound, of the Brimar CV2492.

p.s. - I have bought 3 pairs, so I am letting the cat out of the bag. Happy hunting! :o2smile:
 
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Feb 20, 2019 at 1:01 PM Post #191 of 1,802
Finally got the Brimar CV2492 burned in and in one word, WOW!

Compared to the Amperex 7308 - The Brimar CV2492, has better extension in the bass. The bass hits harder, deeper and more textured. With my Ori headphones, I am getting some insane bass and could not ask for more. The mids on the Brimar are a touch warmer and further back, but are still very present. The air in the mids is the first thing that caught my attention, and this really helps to open things up, compared to the Amperex 7308. The highs are another thing that surprised me, as they are more extended than the Amperex 7308, but are never harsh and have just the right amount of sparkle. I am hearing the most 3 d like sound, that I have heard yet. The sound stage is also taller and wider, than on the Amperex 7308. The sound is clean and warm at the same time, and reminds me of the ZMF house sound. The tone is very lifelike on the Brimar and not better than the Amperex, but just different. The Amperex is a bit more dynamic and punchy, with amazing mids, but lacks the extension (on both ends) and warmth of the Brimar. Both tubes are really really good in the LP and I could see different people preferring one over the other. Another thing to note, is that I have better range with the volume, due to the slightly relaxed and open sound of the Brimar. Also, if you have heard the WE396A, this tube is the only 6922 variant, that has sounded as good and similar. All in all, I have found my tube and love the warm, airy, big and resolving sound, of the Brimar CV2492.

p.s. - I have bought 3 pairs, so I am letting the cat out of the bag. Happy hunting! :o2smile:
Suggest you give these a shot, although the Brimar is very good, these will blow your socks off. Might be able to find cheaper singles around.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mullard-Heath-12AU7-ECC82-Vacuum-Tube-Pair-K61-R8F-Beautiful-Pair-86-90-Matched/283367593114?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160908105057&meid=0d9cf8acee074106b4908f7bb5a7e693&pid=100675&rk=1&rkt=15&sd=283367593114&itm=283367593114&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:0c014ad6-3539-11e9-9ac3-74dbd1800607|parentrq:0c0e8d7f1690add89760adf9fffe2185|iid:1&redirect=mobile

These are 2 similar testing Blackburn ECC82 square getter singles like these better than the above. These are a top 3 tube I ever heard.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mullard-12...690a9caf7e1405dffff0118|iid:1&redirect=mobile

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mullard-12...690a9caf7e1405dffff0118|iid:1&redirect=mobile
 
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Feb 20, 2019 at 2:48 PM Post #192 of 1,802
Suggest you give these a shot, although the Brimar is very good, these will blow your socks off. Might be able to find cheaper singles around.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mullard-Heath-12AU7-ECC82-Vacuum-Tube-Pair-K61-R8F-Beautiful-Pair-86-90-Matched/283367593114?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160908105057&meid=0d9cf8acee074106b4908f7bb5a7e693&pid=100675&rk=1&rkt=15&sd=283367593114&itm=283367593114&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:0c014ad6-3539-11e9-9ac3-74dbd1800607|parentrq:0c0e8d7f1690add89760adf9fffe2185|iid:1&redirect=mobile

These are 2 similar testing Blackburn ECC82 square getter singles like these better than the above. These are a top 3 tube I ever heard.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mullard-12AU7-ECC82-Long-Plate-Square-Getter-Dbl-Post-Tube-Strong-Close-Tests/183693875692?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160908105057&meid=9dd478d3ab744ffb928b400e7edc77ad&pid=100675&rk=1&rkt=15&sd=183693875692&itm=183693875692&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:2b715149-353b-11e9-b39a-74dbd1808ac2|parentrq:0c1c77061690a9caf7e1405dffff0118|iid:1&redirect=mobile

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mullard-12AU7-ECC82-Long-Plate-Square-Getter-Dbl-Post-Tube-Close-Strong-Tests/183693850613?_trkparms=aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160908105057&meid=9dd478d3ab744ffb928b400e7edc77ad&pid=100675&rk=3&rkt=15&sd=183693875692&itm=183693850613&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci:2b715149-353b-11e9-b39a-74dbd1808ac2|parentrq:0c1c77061690a9caf7e1405dffff0118|iid:1&redirect=mobile
Nice! If I ever decide to use adapters, I will look for these, for sure. However, I am keeping it simple with this amp, and sticking with 6922 and no adapters.
 
Feb 20, 2019 at 4:05 PM Post #193 of 1,802

Thanks for the recommendation, I snapped these up. They'll be my first OS tubes, so it should be very interesting to compare against Gold Lions (which are great overall but can sometimes be a little too bright with my Utopia). Unfortunately, the adapters I ordered will take a while to arrive from Hong Kong.
 
Feb 20, 2019 at 4:19 PM Post #194 of 1,802
Thanks for the recommendation, I snapped these up. They'll be my first OS tubes, so it should be very interesting to compare against Gold Lions (which are great overall but can sometimes be a little too bright with my Utopia). Unfortunately, the adapters I ordered will take a while to arrive from Hong Kong.
You do not have to worry about brightness with these tubes, enjoy bro!
 
Feb 20, 2019 at 5:33 PM Post #195 of 1,802
I’ve been using the Amperex Heerlen d-getters for a while now, and it’s quite an interesting contrast to the stock EH tubes.

Probably the biggest difference would be the V-shape response it has relative to the EH. Mid bass punchiness is significantly increased (especially listening to string bass plucking in jazz) and sub bass extension is slightly better. Treble is presented a bit more forward and thus perceived detail is better (texture of percussion is clearer).

Another thing I noticed was that everything sounded a bit tighter (less diffuse) and head stage seemed to be slightly more intimate.

Overall I’ve been enjoying these tubes, and it helps my HD800S have a warmer tone while not smearing the treble like some other Heerlen tubes.
 

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