Not sure what all reasons you have for an LG, but after dismal SQ (personal taste, of course) from V40, V50 & V60 I scored a brand-new backup V30 THAT STILL HAD FM from a vendor who was on eBay, and maybe Amazon, in March. I'm guessing the secret sauce I like is the B&O tuning.
I wanna buy the lg v60 too but im skeptical about it being brand new as they are shipped from china. Im somehow convinced those are refurbished phones... Sighhhh
My only comment here is that, if you're Stateside, eBay & Amazon partners may still have new (New Old Stock) units - the new V30 I obtained 4 months ago came in 4 days domestically, and it unwrapped exactly as factory-sealed (another giveaway it was NOS is that it hadn't received Android updates, which all of the refurb'd ones I suffered through exhibited).
Ya, "Official" is not a credible category for an LG phone purchased today.
Hi all, I'm considering getting the V60 as a replacement for my G8x which has started to have some problems (random switch off). I was gonna go for the newly released BTR7 but wanted to know how the V60 sounds.
My primary concern with getting another LG device is the lack of repair/parts availability, for my G8x, it took 3 months for LG to give me a replacement battery which did not even solve my problem.
How much better is V60 vs G8x & G7 (I've both) or am I better off with some other phone + Mid-Fi DAC like Fiio BTR7, Topping G7, Hip-DAC V2...
Hi all, I'm considering getting the V60 as a replacement for my G8x which has started to have some problems (random switch off). I was gonna go for the newly released BTR7 but wanted to know how the V60 sounds.
My primary concern with getting another LG device is the lack of repair/parts availability, for my G8x, it took 3 months for LG to give me a replacement battery which did not even solve my problem.
How much better is V60 vs G8x & G7 (I've both) or am I better off with some other phone + Mid-Fi DAC like Fiio BTR7, Topping G7, Hip-DAC V2...
I no longer have other LG phones to compare with V60. But I have several dongles including Blue dragonfly, L&P W2, Cayin RU6, Mojo, .... V60 is much much much better than all these dongles. in terms of fidelity, correctness, perfectness.
It is fun to compare between all these dongles, they all have their specialties, strength, ... But once compared to V60, they are all junks, ready to go to trash can.
Why I still keep these dongles, because they are not perfect, they are fun, sometimes.
I no longer have other LG phones to compare with V60. But I have several dongles including Blue dragonfly, L&P W2, Cayin RU6, Mojo, .... V60 is much much much better than all these dongles. in terms of fidelity, correctness, perfectness.
It is fun to compare between all these dongles, they all have their specialties, strength, ... But once compared to V60, they are all junks, ready to go to trash can.
Why I still keep these dongles, because they are not perfect, they are fun, sometimes.
I use 64 Audio U12, and Vision Ears VE8 as main IEM. These IEMs are pretty high resolution, low colorization, and very balanced.
My preference on V60 phone is based on these 2 IEMs. They need high definition input, and don't need any sound tweaking or colorizations from the DACs.
Any loss in definition and any tweaking and colorization will be very easy to spot with these IEMs.
These IEMs just need very simple, raw, high definition input. V60 is based on simple ESS's all-in-one implementation in the ESS 9219 chip, no tweaking, nothing special, so fits these IEMs well.
Yes, pretty much what as yfei said above: I contend you will never surpass the ESS Quad-core sound in LG incorporated in their cells. They apparently abandoned the great B&O tuning in earlier versions, but even the V60 - with all of its extra sound flexibility - will still be your best choice for music.
Yes, pretty much what as yfei said above: I contend you will never surpass the ESS Quad-core sound in LG incorporated in their cells. They apparently abandoned the great B&O tuning in earlier versions, but even the V60 - with all of its extra sound flexibility - will still be your best choice for music.
PS. I have mentioned several time in earlier posts, on LG phones using UAPP we can achieve the 4th filter mode: 'no filter'. By pass the filters (Short, Sharp, Slow).
This just feels like Cayin RU6's 'NOS' mode.
How: in UAPP settings -> Internal HiRes audio -> HiRes driver flags -> check 'Direct' or 'Raw'.
What's special about Cayin RU6's NOS mode, or LG's 'no filter' mode: Better spatial, bass, more details. To me, this mode is the most honest and unprocessed playback of every bit of information in the recording. For great, analog recordings, this mode is the best. For bad, digital recordings, this mode can reveal 'digital feeling'.
LG's filtered mode (Short, Sharp, Slow) are just like Cayin RU6's OS filter modes, they make recordings 'seem like' more analog, more fine grained smooth details, but after long listening the brain always feel something is 'wrong', 'nausea‘. The filter's processing can make bad, digital recording sound better, but for good recordings they are not necessary.
What's the point of seriously discussing the sound capabilities of Android smartphones if all soft players can't bypass the Android mixer? Including UAPP. It is only suitable for audio output to USB.
Yes, on LG V serices phones, using UAPP, after checking the 'Direct' or 'Raw' flag, this warning dialog will appear. But don't worry, it will lead to better sound.
To double check if this 'filter by-passing' mode is working: open LG HiFi setting dialog, try switching these 3 filter (Short, Sharp, Slow) settings, you should hear no change in sound. This means the 3 filters are by-passed.
"seriously discussing the sound capabilities of Android smartphones if all soft players can't bypass the Android mixer? Including UAPP"
Using music players like UAPP, Neutronl, LG Music, the Android Mixer is always by-passed to achieve great sound. But the LG HiFi filters are not bypassed. The HiFi filters are in a lower level than Android mixer. So normal apps could not bypass them.
My guess is that these 3 LG HiFI filters are built-in to the ESS DAC, they are not software. ESS DAC actually provides more than 3 filters.
Unfortunately no. Since all system sounds and notification sounds are played simultaneously with the music. Of the smartphones I know of, only the Onkyo Granbeat and one of the Vivo had direct audio output, bypassing the Android Mixer.
But you may, of course, have the opposite opinion of mine
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