Yes, maybe sometimes we forget that there are record collectors who just like having 1st pressings and don't even listen to them. I would hope the new Zeppelin remasters, out this year, are way better sounding that the originals?
I wouldn't count on that. The "first press is always best" general wisdom is usually right. The recently released Beatles vinyl box set for example is basically crap, done by a ****ty pressing plant using 24/44 digital masters created for the CD releases a few years ago. The original UK pressings stomp all over them.
In almost all cases, unless somebody fanatical about sound quality like Analogue Productions or Music Matters is doing the remastering, remaster = worse.
Didn't they get the permission to do new remasters for the CDs? They didn't use those then? I thought they had long negotiations about this but was is just for the overall re-release thing
I wouldn't count on that. The "first press is always best" general wisdom is usually right. The recently released Beatles vinyl box set for example is basically crap, done by a ****ty pressing plant using 24/44 digital masters created for the CD releases a few years ago. The original UK pressings stomp all over them.
In almost all cases, unless somebody fanatical about sound quality like Analogue Productions or Music Matters is doing the remastering, remaster = worse.
Normally that would be true but I actually heard a very rare remaster of Houses of the Holy. There were a couple recent Zep remasters which were made then stopped by Jimmy Page himself in anticipation for doing the Zep remasters which will come out this year.
Houses of the Holy sounded fantastic! You were there and hearing little drum details which were never heard before! There is one part where Bonzo makes his drums sound almost like a locomotive. Never heard it before. Houses of the Holy is like an album which I heard 100s of times. It may not be the same for all nine albums to be released though. I do agree as even the first CDs are usually the best.
I have a fair bit of dark/noise/ambient....it can sound better but a lot of the recordings are lo fi on purpose....and sometimes so noisy that it doesn't matter much
This genre is best late, alone, in the dark...
Normally that would be true but I actually heard a very rare remaster of Houses of the Holy. There were a couple recent Zep remasters which were made then stopped by Jimmy Page himself in anticipation for doing the Zep remasters which will come out this year.
Houses of the Holy sounded fantastic! You were there and hearing little drum details which were never heard before! There is one part where Bonzo makes his drums sound almost like a locomotive. Never heard it before. Houses of the Holy is like an album which I heard 100s of times. It may not be the same for all nine albums to be released though. I do agree as even the first CDs are usually the best.
Guys, I just wanted to let you know we have some exciting stuff coming on Metal-Fi including:
- Another great interview with a famous musician and engineer everyone on this list knows and loves (or should)
- Our Best-Of of 2012 will be on the 24th (don't miss), we are hoping folks will post their list on the site
- A few more last minute reviews that may actually make some of your best lists
- Some site improvements are also in the works
Next week we are busy....
I promise in the New Year we will start tackling equipment including some headphone reviews and other more technical articles....unless of course the world ends on the 21st.
Not saying that you have to like Periphery, but as much as I love Meshuggah (and I do), if you really are saying that we sound like a Meshuggah cover band, that leads me to believe that you haven't ACTUALLY listened to our latest, and you are just regurgitating what someone else who didn't listen to the album said.
My advice would be to listen to the new album, for there are plenty for legitimate reasons to hate it, instead of made up ones that dont make sense haha!
Thanks dude, but no worries! We appreciate people talking, and you seem to have sparked up a bunch of debate which is great, that always does us some good (we tend to be a very polarizing band for some reason).
Our first album got generally worse reviews and worked wonders for our career, so at this point i would rather see a bad review than not see a review at all! Thanks again!
That was awesome hahahaha, Misha looks indeed like a great guy! I follow most of the guys in this community (members of Periphery, Veil Of Maya, BTBAM, The Faceless, etc) on fb and they all look like fantastic guys. Really just makes me appreciate their music even more. BTW good luck at the show! Hope you will have a blast (pun not intended). It's really my dream to see most of these guys, but I live in a place where a Periphery show would drag like 50 people lol, So I'll have to wait till I grow up and can travel (in case I still like these bands). I did saw Parkway Drive November last year and they where only like 200 people, that shows the magnitude of people who like metal here lol (considering PD is one of the biggest metalcore bands out there) But the tiny Venue just made it that much more enjoyable if you understand, I was able to walk backstage and have a little talk with Winston without having to pass any security at all
Guess it's time to post my best of 2012... so many great releases this year! These guys tied for first, I couldn't choose between them because they're too different.
Alcest - Les voyages de l'âme
Sigh - In Somniphobia
Ne Obliviscaris - Portal of I
Runner ups:
Katatonia - Dead End Kings
Swallow the Sun - Emerald Forest and the Blackbird
What the Blood Revealed - Harbour of Devils (Again, if you haven't heard them, be sure to give it a listen. Really good and generally unheard of band.)
That was awesome hahahaha, Misha looks indeed like a great guy! I follow most of the guys in this community (members of Periphery, Veil Of Maya, BTBAM, The Faceless, etc) on fb and they all look like fantastic guys. Really just makes me appreciate their music even more. BTW good luck at the show! Hope you will have a blast (pun not intended). It's really my dream to see most of these guys, but I live in a place where a Periphery show would drag like 50 people lol, So I'll have to wait till I grow up and can travel (in case I still like these bands). I did saw Parkway Drive November last year and they where only like 200 people, that shows the magnitude of people who like metal here lol (considering PD is one of the biggest metalcore bands out there) But the tiny Venue just made it that much more enjoyable if you understand, I was able to walk backstage and have a little talk with Winston without having to pass any security at all
Dude, its same here. Yesterday Gojira gig had approx 2000-3000 people which is quite low... I think main reason for that was there was a Testament gig which was happening nearby. I want to see a lot of bands but they dont come to India. Truth be told, its the last three-four years that I have seen Ironmaiden, Meshuggah, Tesseract, Enslaved, Machinehead, Megadeth, Amon Amarth, Opeth and Lamb of God etc. Can't really complain now. Because five or six ago, no one used to come.. Bands are coming to India and I am happy..
Didn't they get the permission to do new remasters for the CDs? They didn't use those then? I thought they had long negotiations about this but was is just for the overall re-release thing
The new vinyl masters were taken from the digital remasters done for the CD re-issues a few years ago, 2009 I think. The actual mastering was done at 24/192, which was then cut down to 24/44 for some sort of USB thingie. The vinyl is pressed from the same 24/44, and according to those in the know, basically sounds the same as that, except worse because of things like surface noise from the crappy pressing plant that was chosen for the US release.
1966 stereo originals are really not as bad as you might think. The earliest UK pressings cost a fortune, but a more run of the mill '66 pressed in Europe can be had for under $50, even in mint condition.
The new vinyl masters were taken from the digital remasters done for the CD re-issues a few years ago, 2009 I think. The actual mastering was done at 24/192, which was then cut down to 24/44 for some sort of USB thingie. The vinyl is pressed from the same 24/44, and according to those in the know, basically sounds the same as that, except worse because of things like surface noise from the crappy pressing plant that was chosen for the US release.
1966 stereo originals are really not as bad as you might think. The earliest UK pressings cost a fortune, but a more run of the mill '66 pressed in Europe can be had for under $50, even in mint condition.
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