[Whitigir]

The "Audio-GD - R2R 7 HE" looks to be nearly 3 times the price of the 004 when purchaseed new! There 'should be' some sort of 'improvement' if you splash out (up to) another £2000!!

I don’t buy the HE version, just the regular one, and no....I used lks004 as a point of references to work on the r2r7 and make it sound what it does now. They are different, and like I said, the upgrades wires to the 004 Amanero into the board also brings improvements. I just never known that it would, until I worked on r2r7. Hence I never bothered until now

 

[ecapsretliab]

Ok. I sold my Hugo 2. And now I'm looking for a new DAC as I give headphones a miss.
My speaker setup found the Hugo 2 too bright.
The MH-DA004 is on my short list... But the R2R-7 looks tempting too. It would come down to which is the more laid back and easy on the ears.
So which has the least bite in the low treble? That is key for me... Looking to relax to music... also low-level listening preferred.

 

[Paul Staples]

Ok. I sold my Hugo 2. And now I'm looking for a new DAC as I give headphones a miss.
My speaker setup found the Hugo 2 too bright.
The MH-DA004 is on my short list... But the R2R-7 looks tempting too. It would come down to which is the more laid back and easy on the ears.
So which has the least bite in the low treble? That is key for me... Looking to relax to music... also low-level listening preferred.

Can't you simply reduce the treble on your physical pot on your (pre/integrated) amp, or reduce the treble in your EQ or software based sound shaping app.?

 

[ecapsretliab]

Can't you simply reduce the treble on your physical pot on your (pre/integrated) amp, or reduce the treble in your EQ or software based sound shaping app.?

I'm running headless with minimserver. I don't have EQ, but you're right... as a last resort I could do that, just hoping I won't need to.
The one thing the Hugo 2 got right was the low treble, I had the Hugo 1 and it was too aggressive around 2khz. Just hoping I can find the Hugo 2 delicacy but better tone/balance in the right DAC.

 

[Paul Staples]

I'm running headless with minimserver. I don't have EQ, but you're right... as a last resort I could do that, just hoping I won't need to.
The one thing the Hugo 2 got right was the low treble, I had the Hugo 1 and it was too aggressive around 2khz. Just hoping I can find the Hugo 2 delicacy but better tone/balance in the right DAC.

Of course people would say that you are suffering from digital harshness and to achieve that mellow treble you should perhaps consider an all analogue setup e.g. vinyl, reel to reel, cassette in order to achieve the ultimate rich, deep, pure warmth and softness that you desire? I have been asked to consider the same thing many times myself, but haven't yet gone down that route!

 

[ecapsretliab]

Of course people would say that you are suffering from digital harshness and to achieve that mellow treble you should perhaps consider an all analogue setup e.g. vinyl, reel to reel, cassette in order to achieve the ultimate rich, deep, pure warmth and softness that you desire? I have been asked to consider the same thing many times myself, but haven't yet gone down that route!

I'll have to etch my CD's to vinyl. ...in the mean time, I think I'm going to grab a DA004. I'm going to drink on it...see how I feel in the morning.

 

[Tamz]

Is using singxer su-1 with the DA004 over kill?
Or just get the upgrading usb option is enough?have anyone compare them yet

 

[Whitigir]

Don’t have Singxer, but if Singxer has converted usb into i2s output and input toward 004, then that is fine. The 004 Amanero upgraded module still have those brass Pins connections which negatively affect the sound as I recently found out. Just that it is so good in covering the errors up.

But I always preferred Coax input over usb from before, and now I understand why.

 

[gruvytune]

Is using singxer su-1 with the DA004 over kill?
Or just get the upgrading usb option is enough?have anyone compare them yet

If you talk to Jinbo at LKS he'll tell you not to waste your money. He said they did extensive testing and listening and that the latest Amanero board via USB direct from the computer equals or exceeds I2S in sound capabilities. I went ahead and believed him because I was ready to splurge on an I2S conversion box.

 

[DaaDaa]

oh i didnt know that they speak english and you can ask them questions. their ebay postings are dreadful English so i assumed that communication is out of question.

 

[Whitigir]

If you talk to Jinbo at LKS he'll tell you not to waste your money. He said they did extensive testing and listening and that the latest Amanero board via USB direct from the computer equals or exceeds I2S in sound capabilities. I went ahead and believed him because I was ready to splurge on an I2S conversion box.

That makes senses, because Singxer is usb converter. So it just take UsB from a source, process and convert it. It is different than Direct and dedicated I2S transport

 

[Paul Staples]

I'll have to etch my CD's to vinyl. ...in the mean time, I think I'm going to grab a DA004. I'm going to drink on it...see how I feel in the morning.

Yes, have a good think first! Have a cooling off period for a couple of days or so.

 

[Paul Staples]

Is using singxer su-1 with the DA004 over kill?
Or just get the upgrading usb option is enough?have anyone compare them yet

I think it would be 'OTT'

 

[Paul Staples]

Don’t have Singxer, but if Singxer has converted usb into i2s output and input toward 004, then that is fine. The 004 Amanero upgraded module still have those brass Pins connections which negatively affect the sound as I recently found out. Just that it is so good in covering the errors up.

But I always preferred Coax input over usb from before, and now I understand why.

Is there any point in replacing the power supply with something else for the Amanero board?

 

[Paul Staples]

If you talk to Jinbo at LKS he'll tell you not to waste your money. He said they did extensive testing and listening and that the latest Amanero board via USB direct from the computer equals or exceeds I2S in sound capabilities. I went ahead and believed him because I was ready to splurge on an I2S conversion box.

crap! I've just splurged on an i2s board; will report back my findings once I get it by paying the massive UK Customs fee! (on top of the cost of the item and international postage)!!