Triple and double flange seem to work well with CRN/ZEX Pro imo as they are not midbass heavy to begin with, but it does make them more V shaped. I don’t recommend triple flange on the CRA+ and ZSX; the bass increase is quite overpowering.double flange tend to make iem more v-shaped trough.
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Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
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WhereAreMyEars
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Yeah today I listened to my ZS10 Pro X probably for the first time in a month, after using only my PR3 and Chu II for that period, and I gotta say that it really is good.Would add the ZS10 Pro X to the like list. Punches way above it's price point.
Diversified Tuning Diversified Tuning Legendary Diversified Tuning Legendary Legendary Diversified Tuning Diversified TuningNew CCA IEM with 3DD (+4 switch) config is coming
no additional info yet.
currently wondering whether this uses the new gen DD that recently used in ZSN2 or uses the older "legendary" DD that is in CXS?
"High freq division" possibly means there is dedicated treble DD?
and diversified tuning could be thesaurus for adjustable tuning switches or entirely new tuning sig hence diversified from usual KZ tuning?
I hope they don't pull a DQ6 and all 3 DDs actually do something.
Today i finally spent some time with Rhapsody. Its pretty good IEM with clean sound, but i find bass being too "boomy" and because of that there is too much of bass even with all switches off. It feels bass heavier than HM20, but HM20 have better attack and i dont know, maybe HM20 bass is "faster"? I dont know how to explain it, sadly im not a reviewer. Are there anyone with same thoughts about Rhapsody?
I feel that these smaller drivers of KZ can't pull a solid bass as opposed their standard 10mm ones.Today i finally spent some time with Rhapsody. Its pretty good IEM with clean sound, but i find bass being too "boomy" and because of that there is too much of bass even with all switches off. It feels bass heavier than HM20, but HM20 have better attack and i dont know, maybe HM20 bass is "faster"? I dont know how to explain it, sadly im not a reviewer. Are there anyone with same thoughts about Rhapsody?
PS: All Switches off is MORE BASS in Rhapsody.
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r31ya
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yea, I remember reading one of the switch is to pull in the bass tuck.I feel that these smaller drivers of KZ can't pull a solid bass as opposed their standard 10mm ones.
PS: All Switches off is MORE BASS in Rhapsody.
PS: All Switches off is MORE BASS in Rhapsody.
Oh, silly me. I though that switches are only to add bass or add mid/high, as it says on paper from the box. And i was ok with mid/high frequencies, so i didnt tried to turn them on. Thank you very much.yea, I remember reading one of the switch is to pull in the bass tuck.
0110 is much more ok. 0011 is shouty little bit.
Also isnt HM20 equipped with small dynamic driver? Cant find exact size for some reason, but maybe its 7mm(just because its called XUN-7)?
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r31ya
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yeah, its 7mm Xun7 DD that shortly got overshadowed by its younger sibling the 10mm "Legendary" DD in CXS (that L-DD later appear in 3 other sidegrade)Oh, silly me. I though that switches are only to add bass or add mid/high, as it says on paper from the box. And i was ok with mid/high frequencies, so i didnt tried to turn them on. Thank you very much.
0110 is much more ok. 0011 is shouty little bit.
Also isnt HM20 equipped with small dynamic driver? Cant find exact size for some reason, but maybe its 7mm(just because its called XUN-7)?
Linlong also uses 6~7mm DD that is greatly tuned. it lacked in resolution but is super nice to listen to.
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if I remember correctly 1111 is most optimal setting that you get full subbass boost with the least mid bass bleed and ultra treble.Oh, silly me. I though that switches are only to add bass or add mid/high, as it says on paper from the box. And i was ok with mid/high frequencies, so i didnt tried to turn them on. Thank you very much.
0110 is much more ok. 0011 is shouty little bit.
Also isnt HM20 equipped with small dynamic driver? Cant find exact size for some reason, but maybe its 7mm(just because its called XUN-7)?
Tamizhan
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What's your opinion after using the switches?Oh, silly me. I though that switches are only to add bass or add mid/high, as it says on paper from the box. And i was ok with mid/high frequencies, so i didnt tried to turn them on. Thank you very much.
0110 is much more ok. 0011 is shouty little bit.
Also isnt HM20 equipped with small dynamic driver? Cant find exact size for some reason, but maybe its 7mm(just because its called XUN-7)?
CharlieTaylor
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From individual impression, this can tune bass/treble with less improvement if need, but not means non-useful.What's your opinion after using the switches?
Its a good IEM. 1111 and 0110 are almost identical to my ear and way better than 0000. Its still pretty bassy, but less boomy. But HM20 is better in terms of bass in my opinion, but there is more treble in HM20 than i like so after using switches Rhapsody is better, than HM20 and way better than KZ ZAT, which is very thin and have some problems with pressure buildup for me.What's your opinion after using the switches?
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I think you can do eartip rolling to reduce the bass a bit further. Springtip is a good start. Or any widebore tip will do the trick.Its a good IEM. 1111 and 0110 are almost identical to my ear and way better than 0000. Its still pretty bassy, but less boomy. But HM20 is better in terms of bass in my opinion, but there is more treble in HM20 than i like so after using switches Rhapsody is better, than HM20 and way better than KZ ZAT, which is very thin and have some problems with pressure buildup for me.
Yes, im using spring tips and also tried sednaearfit light short and sednaearfit shortI think you can do eartip rolling to reduce the bass a bit further. Springtip is a good start. Or any widebore tip will do the trick.
Tamizhan
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It's a good one with nice timbre and average technicalities. From what I understand, it's a trade off while using DD for mids. BAs will give thin and transparent sound with BA timbre. I'm quoting @shez. 's review of penon fan2.Its a good IEM. 1111 and 0110 are almost identical to my ear and way better than 0000. Its still pretty bassy, but less boomy. But HM20 is better in terms of bass in my opinion, but there is more treble in HM20 than i like so after using switches Rhapsody is better, than HM20 and way better than KZ ZAT, which is very thin and have some problems with pressure buildup for me.
"Their dynamic range of BA drives is shorter than I usually prefer. I believe that to fix the BA harmonic overtone pitch problem, they shaved the BA higher pitches and increased loudness, similar to how dynamic normalizer work. This led to dynamic range shortness, which feels especially on vocals. Despite that vocal has good details, they lack an emotion that gives an excellent dynamic range."
So there's always some caveat in the budget category.
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I think at a high level, the tradeoffs are much simpler than that:From what I understand, it's a trade off while using DD for mids
- More drivers = higher cost. Why? Because of more drivers, a filter, a more complex housing…
- More drivers = more flexibility, (easier?) to hit a defined target frequency response. Why? Because of more “knobs” to play with.
- DD driver = easier to get (good) bass.
- BA driver = easier to get (good) highs.
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