Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Apr 30, 2022 at 11:00 PM Post #59,236 of 64,392
I am pleasantly surprised at how much I am enjoying listening to the KZ EDA "Balanced" pair - I'm still burning them in right now - but out of the box they are very listenable.

I'm interested in the balanced pair, also. I wonder if it is as good as the CRA.

I like how each pair in the EDA offering is a single dynamic driver, with no other drivers for anyone like me to suspect that even if they're there, they're not working.
 
Apr 30, 2022 at 11:15 PM Post #59,237 of 64,392
I'm interested in the balanced pair, also. I wonder if it is as good as the CRA.

I like how each pair in the EDA offering is a single dynamic driver, with no other drivers for anyone like me to suspect that even if they're there, they're not working.
Yup, IDK if KZ EDA's were conceived and created as part of the aftermath, but if not they sure are a serendipitous product, with great timing for KZ!

I'm getting the same feeling, that single DD's are right up there with single Planar's for reliable sound, the Timeless was another single driver win for my ears :)

IDK if I will get the CRA+, but it sounds like a good revision from the CRA - which I've also not heard. :ksc75smile:
If you get both I'll look forward to your comparisons! :beerchug:
 
Apr 30, 2022 at 11:18 PM Post #59,238 of 64,392
I'm interested in the balanced pair, also. I wonder if it is as good as the CRA.

I like how each pair in the EDA offering is a single dynamic driver, with no other drivers for anyone like me to suspect that even if they're there, they're not working.
It is just not "as good as the CRA", but literally sounds like a refined/upgraded CRA. I have both, EDA removes the treble aggresiveness that the CRA has, plus it has more midrange.
 
Apr 30, 2022 at 11:23 PM Post #59,239 of 64,392
Well guys, I've got some new IEM's, the KZ EDA's courtesy of Hifigo.com , Thank you!

I was surprised at how tiny the box is that holds all 3 pair! From the marketing photo's I thought it would be a "huge" presentation box, but instead it's a cute mini box.
The box is almost the same size as the last single KZ pair box I received - the Crinacle CRN ZEX Pro :beerchug:

I am pleasantly surprised at how much I am enjoying listening to the KZ EDA "Balanced" pair - I'm still burning them in right now - but out of the box they are very listenable.

I did find that the Medium tip was a bit too small, and they picked up a lot of Bass and Sound Stage after switching to the Large tips provided.

The included cable isn't bad at all, of course I wished there were a cable (and Tips!) for each IEM, I hate swapping IEM cables (and Tips!), the micro sized IEM connections make me nervous, but I get on with it aok. :ksc75smile:

I'll try some other cables too, but for now I'll swap the similar Crinacle CRN ZEX Pro cable over to service testing the EDA "High Resolution Version" and EDA "Heavy Bass Version"...

From others' reports it sounds like the other two pair will be fun as well, I'm looking forward to enjoying all 3! Only $36.99!! What a bargain!! :)
You should try Kbear 07 tips or any wide bore with all the three, they improved the sound by alot in my experience.
 
May 1, 2022 at 12:08 AM Post #59,240 of 64,392
You should try Kbear 07 tips or any wide bore with all the three, they improved the sound by alot in my experience.
I've seen several mentions recommending the Kbear 07 tips... which size(s) do you use?
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They all look like they have the same tube/barrel/shaft diameter:
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And, where can I buy just M+ and L sizes? The mixed offerings waste too many small tips I never can use:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001872079894.html
 
May 1, 2022 at 1:03 AM Post #59,241 of 64,392
I've seen several mentions recommending the Kbear 07 tips... which size(s) do you use?

They all look like they have the same tube/barrel/shaft diameter:

And, where can I buy just M+ and L sizes? The mixed offerings waste too many small tips I never can use:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001872079894.html
The medium size fits the best for me, but if you have smaller ears then the M- will work. M+ if you think you have larger ears than average.

Edit: You can buy separate sizes in the link you provided.
 
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May 2, 2022 at 2:17 AM Post #59,243 of 64,392
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This sounds eerily similar to BL03 just with better tech and bass control...
 
May 2, 2022 at 6:39 AM Post #59,246 of 64,392
The medium size fits the best for me, but if you have smaller ears then the M- will work. M+ if you think you have larger ears than average.
I usually get ML size, or M+ as Large is most always far too big for me, and M is just a bit too small. It really does make a big difference in the sound quality to find the correct fitting eartip that matches the IEM and my ears together. :)
...And, where can I buy just M+ and L sizes? The mixed offerings waste too many small tips I never can use:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001872079894.html
Edit: You can buy separate sizes in the link you provided.
I am looking for alternative sellers with better labeling discipline, and if I can get it sooner via a US shipment I would prefer to find a US seller.
Thanks for the help in finding alternative sellers. :beerchug:
Sorry for not going into detail before, I did a poor job explaining what I meant and needed, here are the Details I left out of the previous post:

If you check the product listing at the link I posted earlier (above in this response too), some of the Option Text Labels are incorrect, 2 of the 3 M labels should have a +/- and do not. None of the labels that need a + or - in the text bother to have the correct matching of product name text to Color.

I don't want to purchase from that particular seller because of their lazy labeling - nor any seller with such poor product option naming/labeling.

I have been stung before by "assuming" the Color and Text Label mis-match errors are inconsequential, and then the Product Packer matches an inadequate text label there instead of matching the color, and I end up receiving the wrong product.

And, it isn't the $, it is the time wasted waiting for the shipment to arrive, and then discovering I've been shipped the wrong product. Then I'd need to look for another seller anyway after receiving the wrong product, so I might as well find a seller I trust the first time.
Current Amazon listings have limited sizes showing available, except for the mixed size pack and sizes I don't need. I'm looking for M+ only.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=kbear+07+ear+tips

It's weird, I'm only finding AliExpress stores with no M+ text labels, only M and some M-
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001872079894.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001935540402.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003079526805.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256803803831925.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001961851191.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001961587783.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001961308339.html

KBear's Offical AliExpress store is doing this M/M+ mis-labeling too:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001869773798.html

This AliExpress store has most text labels incorrectly matched to Color.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003058158972.html

And, this non-Aliexpress site has M/M-/M text labels:
https://keephifi.com/products/kbear-07-eartips

Has anyone found a seller with the correct labeling for M+ to (Aqua) Blue?
 
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May 2, 2022 at 7:14 AM Post #59,247 of 64,392
I usually get ML size, or M+ as Large is always far too big for me, and M is just a bit too small. It really does make a big difference in the sound quality to find the correct fitting eartip that matches the IEM and my ears together. :)


Yes, but the labels are incorrect, 2 of the 3 M labels should have a +/- and do not. In fact none of the labels bother to have the correct matching of product name text to Color.

I don't want to purchase from that particular seller because of their lazy labeling - nor any seller with such poor product option naming/labeling, as I have been stung before by "assuming" the Color and Text Label errors are "accidental", and then the Product Packer matches a text label there instead of matching the color, and I end up receiving the wrong product.

And, it isn't the $, it is the time wasted and still not getting the product I need. Then I'd need to look for another seller after getting the wrong product anyway, so I might as well find a seller I trust the first time.

So, I am looking for alternative sellers with better labeling discipline, and if I can get it sooner via a US shipment I would prefer to find a US seller.
Thanks for the help in finding alternative sellers. :beerchug:

With more size options you may find a different tip gives a better fit in each ear, or that one step smaller works for a deeper fitting IEM. Either case gives you two useable sets from one mixed set. If you have friends or relatives with different size then you can make use of the spare sizes. I take L or M+, my Wife takes M and a friend at my old workplace takes S. Given that the set of five sizes costs about the same as two individual pairs, that's a win. My only gripe is the shipping charges, five individual pairs get charged a hell of a lot more than one set of five pairs.
 
May 2, 2022 at 7:50 AM Post #59,248 of 64,392
...My only gripe is the shipping charges, five individual pairs get charged a hell of a lot more than one set of five pairs.
That's too bad, I hadn't gotten far enough to see any shipping overcharges.

So far I've not found a single seller with the correct naming of the M+ product I want to purchase.

I'll keep looking for an accurate listing of the KBear 07 M+ (Aqua) Blue tips...

Until then I'll continue buying AZLA ML tips of various styles...
 
May 5, 2022 at 4:43 PM Post #59,250 of 64,392
Sorry if this has already been asked but is there any way to seperately buy the tips that came with the CRN?
KZ Starline tips are available in most AliExpress stores that stock KZ. They come in a pack of S/M/L.

Honestly not the best tips, it's worth upgrading. Tips make a huge difference, if you don't get a good seal the IEMs won't sound right.
 

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