[Slater]

Picked up a ZS6. Partially because I love the look of the Andromeda. Yet cannot afford an Andromeda.

So wait a minute. Are you saying that in a way, you're a future Andromeda customer because of the ZS6?

 

[damex]

Sure, NP.

BTW, stick to normal cables as in normal KZ 0.75mm, or normal as in non-KZ 0.78mm cables?

normal as is non-kz 0.78mm
i don't want to have different cables

 

[Asimov90]

Are there any reviews or detailed impressions about the ES3? I would like to know which one suits better my taste between the ZST and ES3. I cannot make up my mind about them.
I want good bass with clear upfront vocals and not piercing highs.

 

[HungryPanda]

The ES3 has good bass and the highs are fine. I prefer them over the ZST

 

[groucho69]

So wait a minute. Are you saying that in a way, you're a future Andromeda customer because of the ZS6?

 

[Slater]

normal as is non-kz 0.78mm
i don't want to have different cables

Gotcha.

Be aware that you're going to have to really press the cable on the 1st time (because you are spreading the female pins out basically).

 

[Slater]

haha, I was just joking around. I already saw Brooko's reminder to behave LOL :0)

 

[vector84]

normal as is non-kz 0.78mm
i don't want to have different cables

Gotcha.

Be aware that you're going to have to really press the cable on the 1st time (because you are spreading the female pins out basically).

You should probably insert the 0.75mm cable at least once before switching over to 0.78mm to make the process easier.

 

[Slater]

You should probably insert the 0.75mm cable at least once before switching over to 0.78mm to make the process easier.

Good call. I just assumed the stock cables were already installed.

But yeah, a fresh out of the box set should have the stock cables inserted to at least get the pins a little spread out.

 

[NeonHD]

Man these ATE S is really starting to grow on me, now I truly understand why people say its musical, which is mostly due to the ultra detailed mids. Usually when I think of detail in music I think of the really high frequencies, but never have I experienced such great detail in the mids. I was shocked to hear sounds that I never even noticed before with the ATE-S. For example I could distinctively make out the reverb in a track or some tiny percussion sound that you normally wouldn't be able to recognize.

The ED9 and the ATE-S are going to make an excellent duo. If I want micro-detail in the highs I'll choose the ED9, on the other hand if I want micro-detail in the mids I'll choose the ATE-S.

 

[Francisk]

Is there a source to buy KZ Starline tips? The official store on AE only appears to stock the foam tips.

If I can't buy the tips alone, is there a list of KZ IEMs that ship w/ Starlines?

Link to Starline tips at AliExpress: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3-P...lgo_pvid=7e95da4e-67ad-4ceb-a677-55a9d646e91f

 

[Francisk]

Are there any reviews or detailed impressions about the ES3? I would like to know which one suits better my taste between the ZST and ES3. I cannot make up my mind about them.
I want good bass with clear upfront vocals and not piercing highs.

ES3: http://www.aproear.co.uk/kz-es3/

ZST: http://www.aproear.co.uk/zst-hybrid/

 

[Asimov90]

ES3: http://www.aproear.co.uk/kz-es3/

ZST: http://www.aproear.co.uk/zst-hybrid/

Great in depth reviews. Just what I was looking for. I suppose I'll go with the ES3. Bassier, with no piercing highs, improved vocals, it should sound much better than KZ ZST...

 

[snip3r77]

Most (if not all) 2-pin cables NOT designed for KZ IEMs use 0.78mm pins. All KZ models (except an early version of the ZS3) use 0.75mm pins.

While the 0.78mm pinned cables technically fit, it will "stretch out" the sockets on the KZ so the KZ cables will no longer work and will be loose and fall out.

So the general rule of thumb I recommend is "once you go non-KZ ie 0.78mm, you must stay non-KZ ie 0.78mm".

IIRC .78 is the industrial standard.

 

[wastan]

Just got my Bluetooth cable in the mail today. My ZS3 is the old version so no joy there but I kinda expected that anyway. On the ZS5 my initial impression is not bad sounding at all. More than adequate for a workout setup. Unfortunately, I'd hoped pair it with a Benjie K8. The BT implementation on the K8 seems super-kludged together but it does work. Pairing went OK but when the device moved to arms length away from the KZ module everything just crashed. No connection lost indicator from either device but no sound.

This was disappointing so I connected the KZ Bluetooth to my Kindle 7" HDX tablet. Here, there was no disconnect even walking from room to room about the house. Then I connected the Benjie to a pair of audsom M05 APTX. Again, no lost connection walking about the house.

As for sound, my first day impression is that I prefer the KZ module to the audsom though that comparison--over ears vs. IEM doesn't mean much.

Will report more as I play with the KZ's battery life.