[pauliunas]

Are they all V-shaped, or are there any relatively flat ones? With so many different models, it's hard to keep track of their differences...

 

[unifutomaki]

Are they all V-shaped, or are there any relatively flat ones? With so many different models, it's hard to keep track of their differences...

Flat and KZ don't go together. You may want to look into models like the CVJ CS8/CSN, HZSound Heart Mirror, TinHiFi T2/T2+ and Moondrop SSR if you're looking for a flat-ish signature on a budget.

 

[Green Golden Retriver]

How is the kz as16?

 

[PhonoPhi]

Are they all V-shaped, or are there any relatively flat ones? With so many different models, it's hard to keep track of their differences...

ZAX is less V-shaped compared to ZSX and ZS10 pro.

KZ made AS16 (my favourite one so far) - not V, less bass, more treble, but it was not widely appreciated, so KZ got back to V...

P.S. Edited a jumbled sentence.

 

[Green Golden Retriver]

ZAX is less V-shaped compared
KZ made AS16 (my favourite one so far) - not V, less bass, more treble, but it was not widely appreciated, so KZ got back to V...

I will try to see if I can find demo pair . Have you ever tried TFZ Queen or tequila?

 

[PhonoPhi]

How is the kz as16?

I will try to see if I can find demo pair . Have you ever tried TFZ Queen or tequila?

No, I have not, sorry.
If you are into bass of ZS10, BA bass of AS16 can feel very lean.

C16 may be also an option to consider - still reserved bass, very nice thick mids and fairly rolled off treble compared to AS16, where the treble us quite rich.

 

[Green Golden Retriver]

No, I have not, sorry.
If you are into bass of ZS10, BA bass of AS16 can feel very lean.

C16 may be also an option to consider - still reserved bass, very nice thick mids and fairly rolled off treble compared to AS16, where the treble us quite rich.

Is it the cca16?

 

[PhonoPhi]

Is it the cca16?

CCA C16 (all BA, close sibling of AS16), not CA16.
CA16 may also a good option, if gentle treble is preferred, to me CA16 is super C10.

 

[Green Golden Retriver]

CCA C16 (all BA, close sibling of AS16), not CA16.
CA16 may also a good option, if gentle treble is preferred, to me CA16 is super C10.

Cca16 is not the same as as16?

 

[PhonoPhi]

Cca16 is not the same as as16?

KZ AS16 is closely related to CCA C16, but different (treble BAs are different).
CCA CA16 is a newer hybrid and different from AS16 or C16.
There is no "CCA 16"; and sorry, I am not responsible for this perplexing nomenclature

 

[Green Golden Retriver]

KZ AS16 is closely related to CCA C16, but different (treble BAs are different).
CCA CA16 is a newer hybrid and different from AS16 or C16.
There is no "CCA 16"; and sorry, I am not responsible for this perplexing nomenclature

I understand now thank you very much so ca16 should be the best right

 

[PhonoPhi]

I understand now thank you very much so ca16 should be the best right

CA16 can be one the best for gentle treble and nice (but not overwhelming) DD bass - very smooth and yet resolving; for ~$50 - hard to beat.

 

[Green Golden Retriver]

CA16 can be one the best for gentle treble and nice (but not overwhelming) DD bass - very smooth and yet resolving; for ~$50 - hard to beat.

Nice will find a place to demo it , thanks for your explanation

 

[pauliunas]

Flat and KZ don't go together. You may want to look into models like the CVJ CS8/CSN, HZSound Heart Mirror, TinHiFi T2/T2+ and Moondrop SSR if you're looking for a flat-ish signature on a budget.

Thanks for the advice guess I'll keep walking then, haha

 

[alamnp]

Nice will find a place to demo it , thanks for your explanation

Get them, I have 3, just in case if I break them.., they are soooo GOOD