Is anyone using the hafx101?? I bought them recently and I played them on full volume for 8 hours or so, the treble seems to be softening . Is there any noticeable difference in bass too? Because it sounds the same ( i know i should run them for long hours before use, I'm just curious to know) . Also the bass isn't insane and rrrrumbling as i expected , there is a significant amount of bass but all that hype made me expect more :/
I haven't been here in like.. years, ever since I hit my end-game for audio x).
Yes the FX101s burn-in time is ridiculous, I'd recommend it to anyone as an all-rounder entry level IEM to get their audiophile engines up and running, if it wasn't for the freakishly long burn-in time, which is roughly around 200 to 300 hours depending on how completely tame you want the upper mids/treble to be (the killer peaks are at ~3khz and ~5khz).
I've burned in around half a dozen of these things for my friends and these are just the little peculiarities I've noticed:
1. As, above they take very long to burn-in (to tame the treble peaks), almost as long as high-end headphones (read: headphones, not IEMs)
2. If you go past a certain volume threshold, the sub-bass disappears completely (<30hz), you can easily observe this behavior with a realtime EQ, just dial up a low shelf EQ for the bass, or something around 30hz, just past 3db and you'll begin to wonder if your EQ is broken because making it go back to 0 makes the sub-bass rumble come back, and pushing it to 4db onwards makes it disappear (and makes the bass punch/impact around 60hz onwards stronger).
3. Like the treble, the bass is also very finicky and difficult to mature/burn-in - I could only get it to get more rumble and bass ambience by adding liberal amounts of subbass EQ while playing my already bassy burn-in tracks. (When I did this I didn't know about the bass being muted out if you play it too loud, but it burned-in anyway and the bass on my personal fx101 is WAY more rumbly and basspacious (yes, that's a word) when compared to a pair that was burned-in without EQ and without an amp to compensate for the EQ pre-cut. The difference is almost as large as listening to the fx101's bass and then listening to the fx1x's bass (the fx1x's subbass is just vulgar, but in a good way, lol).
If you're okay with running this routine for 250 hours straight, then FX101 is the best in its class. Hell I would also dare say it beats most of the sub-$100 tier IEMs if not all (ignoring bass gods like the Atrio IEMs, of course).
Also, my personal advice, don't listen to these things fresh out of the box on treble-heavy tracks; the worst that could happen is that you become treble desensitized (i.e. you damage your hearing, but that's just exaggerating), but more importantly if you get used to this kind of peaky treble/upper-mids then you'll just spoil yourself for when you start to hear the really REALLY good high-end IEM and headphones, because you wouldn't be able to tell CLEAN treble from "oh I can't hear any treble from this why does this sound so muffled".
100% agreed. They have pretty good bass for an IEM, but of course, headphones are the optimal choice. Hands down, th king of headphones for bass are the JVC SZ2000. Here is a video of them in action.
http://youtu.be/DIXdwrEIYBw
I would say they are definetly worth the price for what kind of bass you will get. There is literally nothing better than them, all of us over at the extreme basshead thread have been looking for the best, and these simply are the best. I've tried the XB500 and I was disappointed with them... Mostly just mid bass, mids sounded recessed, overall kind of dead or veiled, and the pads were way too huge.
For anyone seeing who wants the best bass in a pair of cans, hit up the Extreme Basshead club thread. First page features the most recent info and top 10 cans for bass with small reviews under each. Best being the first, and worst being the last.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/716711/the-best-bass-headphones-are-the-extreme-bass-club
Finally, someone that understands what BS everyone is saying about the XB500. I frickin' BOUGHT the XB-1000s in hopes that it was made better than all it's predecessors, but man was I wrong. I still managed to salvage that one though, with EQ and an amp. Its bass was able to keep up with the EQ pretty decently, so I wasn't
too sad.