I see these guys who whine that a headphone resonates at certain frequencies.
Is this really audible, it's in the millisecond range too.
Is this really audible, it's in the millisecond range too.
I see these guys who whine that a headphone resonates at certain frequencies.
Is this really audible, it's in the millisecond range too.
I see these guys who whine that a headphone resonates at certain frequencies.
Is this really audible, it's in the millisecond range too.
Perhaps I was too terse before. The only answer anyone can correctly pick in the survey is "Maybe" because it's a question of degree. Ringing is a phenomenon with three dimensions: magnitude, frequency and time. Any two of those dimensions, if taken high enough, will cause ringing to be audible. Anyone who has heard it will want to answer "Yes", but truthfully they have also not heard it too, but it's been there. The quest for knowledge is applaudable, but the question is really wrong. The Yes answers will win, but that's not the real answer, because what people are answering Yes to is, really, "Have you ever heard ringing you objected to?" And thats why we have anecdotal responses relating specifics.
I'm with jaddie on this one. "Maybe" it is.
So how are those sh**ty HE500's for you? Lol
If it's being interpreted from my remarks that I'm claiming some kind of "golden eared" status, then I've done a lousy job of explaining. I don't view my sensitivity to ringing as anything but a curse as I'm obviously missing out on the pleasure of hearing any number of really great phones/speakers. Could be the years of machine shop work....
No, you've done a good jobs, you're sensitive to ringing. It would be useful to know about what frequency range or critical band that happens for you. There actually is a type of tinnitus that is aggravated by specific spectral content, and knowing the frequencies involved is important to treatment. I've experimented with tinnitus "conditioning" treatment, it does work.
No, you've done a good jobs, you're sensitive to ringing. It would be useful to know about what frequency range or critical band that happens for you. There actually is a type of tinnitus that is aggravated by specific spectral content, and knowing the frequencies involved is important to treatment. I've experimented with tinnitus "conditioning" treatment, it does work.
Thanks for the understanding and I guess you've forced me to do something "scientific". Using an iphone 4 with iOS6.1.2 and FreqGen by William Ames, (which, according to a couple of the reviews, appears to test accurately), through a pair of DT880/32, I get:
Lower limit 23 Hz, upper limit about 14.5 Hz, naturally neither was a the same level as at1kHz, but then the phones weren't corrected for flat response either, so some error there as well, but ballpark is probably OK at this stage.
The tinnitus ringing in my head seems to be at about 7.5 - 8.5 kHz. The voices however appear at random frequencies.
I've tried a few OTC remedies, they don't work for me, not even slightly, but if you have any recommendations, no problem with trying them out.
If it helps, at this stage, I'd group as "good" phones that I've owned, AKG K340, (the old ones, not the newer ear buds), DT 880 & 990, Koss ESP 9 and 950, Stax SR-3/SRD5, and SRXMkIII, PWB Electrostatic and Moving Coil, (yes I owned both at one time!) and Wharfedale Isodynamics. And I accept your premise that any/all could have been ringing at inaudible levels.
Phones I'd call "bad" are AKG 701,(slight), Senn HD 580, (slightly worse), a pair of electrets from either Micro-Seki or Audio Technica, can't remember now, (worse), Sony MDR somethings, and the already mentioned HE 500. Very disappointed in the latter, I really wanted to like them. I'm sure there are others I've forgotten, because I didn't own them for very long for obvious reasons.
I'm not sure an eq would help, I think I could end up throwing the program out with the ringing. It also doesn't seem to be an open back/closed back issue.
Anyway, that's it.
My tinnitus files are a bit disorganized, but PM me and I'll send you something. The basic idea is auditory cortex reorganization, here's an abstract of one paper that describes it:
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/12/15/0911268107.abstract
The basic procedure is to identify discreet tinnitus frequencies, then prepare a filter than notches out those frequencies, and play "conditioning" material through it at prescribed exposures. There are commercial products and practitioners that do this, which is the recommended way. Doesn't stop me from trying it a bit though. You have to be very careful with exposure levels of course, but it does work. Expect a good six months to a year to make a decent difference.