is my amp limiting my akg k701's
Apr 21, 2012 at 6:52 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 10

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I have this amp/receiver
http://support.jvc.com/consumer/product.jsp?archive=true&pathId=5&modelId=MODL027235

I'm thinking that it may be limiting my new set of akg k701
the reason I'm thinking it is because of the 20Hz to 20kHz output

should I worry about it ?
or am I making a problem were there is not one ?


thanks


edit
if I do need a new one
are there any good ones with a 3d sound output (3D-PHONIC Virtual Surround Sound)
it's nice for head phones and gaming
 
Apr 21, 2012 at 10:00 PM Post #2 of 10
I believe your JVC receiver came out about 8 years ago, can't find any real feedback on it.
 
The Yamaha receivers come with Silent Cinema, which is Yamaha's own headphone surround sound tech.
Sometimes the Yamaha RX-371 goes on sale for $150 with free shipping at Newegg.
 
The Yamaha RX-671 is going for around $360 shipped, at Electronics Expo (normally $550-$600)
Can drive 600-Ohm headphones and comes with some nice Internet/networking features.
Good speaker amplifiers and lots of audio support.
 
Apr 21, 2012 at 10:16 PM Post #3 of 10
I believe your JVC receiver came out about 8 years ago, can't find any real feedback on it.

The Yamaha receivers come with Silent Cinema, which is Yamaha's own headphone surround sound tech.
Sometimes the Yamaha RX-371 goes on sale for $150 with free shipping at Newegg.

The Yamaha RX-671 is going for around $360 shipped, at Electronics Expo (normally $550-$600)
Can drive 600-Ohm headphones and comes with some nice Internet/networking features.
Good speaker amplifiers and lots of audio support.


thanks

are you saying it's not suited for my k701's ?
if I need a new one I'd like to get a old tube amp just for my head phones
or at lest a amp just for the headphones
the 3d headphones surround sound is not a big deal, but it's nice

edit
the amp can power them fine
I'm worried about the frequency range ext
 
Apr 21, 2012 at 10:48 PM Post #4 of 10
 
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I believe your JVC receiver came out about 8 years ago, can't find any real feedback on it.
The Yamaha receivers come with Silent Cinema, which is Yamaha's own headphone surround sound tech.
Sometimes the Yamaha RX-371 goes on sale for $150 with free shipping at Newegg.
The Yamaha RX-671 is going for around $360 shipped, at Electronics Expo (normally $550-$600)
Can drive 600-Ohm headphones and comes with some nice Internet/networking features.
Good speaker amplifiers and lots of audio support.
Are you saying it's not suited for my k701's ?

if I need a new one I'd like to get a old tube amp just for my head phones
or at lest a amp just for the headphones
the 3d headphones surround sound is not a big deal, but it's nice

edit
the amp can power them fine
I'm worried about the frequency range ext

The limit of human hearing is well below the max (20khz) of the receiver.
So your going to reach your ear's limit long before you get to the receiver & K701s limit.
AKG 700 series are low Ohm (62-Ohm), but high current, tubes are good for voltage, not current.
High Ohm headphones need voltage.
Solid State & Hybrids (tube & solid state combos) are a better choice for the AKG 700 series.
 
What source(s) are you feeding into the JVC receiver?
 
 
 
Apr 21, 2012 at 11:47 PM Post #5 of 10
it's hooked up to my pc

my sound card is a ht omega claro plus+
http://www.htomega.com/claroplus.html

and now that I think of it I'm using cheap wires
I think I use these http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3449316
would it help if I replaced those?

I use it for playing games movies and music
all my music is 320kb's ~1.4mb's and manly wav and flac with a few mp3's
I use windows for most of my gaming and use a custom linux OS for movies and music with OSS4
I use vlc for movies and audacious for music

also is there any thing I can do to make them louder ?
they start pop before they get loud enough, then my amp gives out a speaker overrode warring
I like how my ath-ad700 got to loud it's good for games a combat sims
it's not a big deal, TBH I should not have them that loud



edit
I'm fine with my mobile setup
it's a old ibm x41 tablet with a sound blaster audigy 2 zs and fiio E6
it could be much better, but it's just for when I'm on the go

edit newegg link to sound card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829271003
 
Apr 22, 2012 at 12:24 AM Post #6 of 10
 
Quote:
it's hooked up to my pc
my sound card is a ht omega claro plus+
http://www.htomega.com/claroplus.html
and now that I think of it I'm using cheap wires
I think I use these http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3449316
would it help if I replaced those?
I use it for playing games movies and music
all my music is 320kb's ~1.4mb's and manly wav and flac with a few mp3's
I use windows for most of my gaming
and use a custom linux OS for movies and music with OSS4
I use vlc for movies and audacious for music
also is there any thing I can do to make them louder ?
they start pop before they get loud enough, then my amp gives out a speaker overrode warring
I like how my ath-ad700 got to loud it's good for games a combat sims
it's not a big deal, TBH I should not have them that loud

I'm fine with my mobile setup
it's a old ibm x41 tablet with a sound blaster audigy 2 zs and fiio E6

newegg link to sound card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829271003

I doubt the analog wire makes that much of a difference, but a heavier shield cable would not hurt.
Monoprice seems to have the lowest prices for cables.
One thing you might try is running a digital optical cable from sound card to receiver.
Electrical noise inside the computer case could affect the analog audio signal coming out of the sound card.
You have a good sound card, so I doubt the optical would really change the sound much, but at least it would be fun finding out.
Do you plug the headphones into both the sound card and JVC?
How to make the sound louder, currently have no idea.
I like using Foobar for music and the Windows Media Player Classic (from Codecguide) for video myself.
The pop sounds like a problem, but have no idea what to do about it.
 
 
 
Apr 22, 2012 at 12:35 AM Post #7 of 10
I doubt the analog wire makes that much of a difference, but a heavier shield cable would not hurt.
Monoprice seems to have the lowest prices for cables.
One thing you might try is running a digital optical cable from sound card to receiver.
Electrical noise inside the computer case could affect the analog audio signal coming out of the sound card.
You have a good sound card, so I doubt the optical would really change the sound much, but at least it would be fun finding out.
Do you plug the headphones into both the sound card and JVC?
How to make the sound louder, currently have no idea.
I like using Foobar for music and the Windows Media Player Classic (from Codecguide) for video myself.
The pop sounds like a problem, but have no idea what to do about it.


thanks
I have one somewhere on my messy desk
I do think there would be much electrical noise in my pc. I have a high end system with a very clean PSU, but my 2 ccfl's might make some electrical noise now that I think of it
but I'll try it out

I get popping from all my headphones when I crank them up loud
I like supper loud sound and pressure for combat sims like wings of prey
 
Apr 22, 2012 at 12:42 AM Post #8 of 10
 
Quote:
I get popping from all my headphones when I crank them up loud
I like supper loud sound and pressure for combat sims like wings of prey

But is then when the K701s are plugged into the JVC or the Claro Plus?
 
 
 
Apr 22, 2012 at 12:53 AM Post #9 of 10
Popping sounds like you are reaching the limitation of the receiver or that you are pushing the limit of the headphones and is not noise from the rest of your system.  Noise from your system will be obvious.  If there is nothing playing and there is sound coming through your headphones that is noise.  This can come from your receiver itself and getting a different amplifier (needs to be clean) can help this as long as the noise isn't coming after digital to analog decoding which your receiver also does.  In general, I feel headphone amplifiers are more refined than speaker amplifiers although they don't have features such as faux-surround [doesn't make sense on a 2-driver headphone anyways].
 

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