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well, I wanna buy an ipod touch as soon as it gets here but I'm a bit confused now about the SQ.
So I went to the local apple store with my brand new Futuresonics FS1's and plugged them into the new 6G ipod classic. There was some dance music on it like Earth wind and fire - boogie wonderland and some of that stuff.
I must say it sounded pretty good to me. I don't know if it's the earpieces that did it but it didn't annoy me. It shure could be better but it was fine to my ears. Good highs, bit recessed mids (the way I like it) and a good present bass. The bas wasn't very well defined or deep but average.
The one thing that I did notice is that the UI is a complete disaster. It was like it just didn't respond. For example: when playing a song, I pressed menu to go back to the menu but it just didn't do anything for at least 3-4 seconds. I mean, that's certainly no apple style. I'm working on a macbook now an it's one hell of a sweet machine and I just couldn't belive they come from the same manufacturer. The ipods UI was just very slow. It looked nice and coverflow was pretty nice but it was just a damn slow thing to handle.
I'll still be waiting for the ipod touch then....... Hope it's coming soon
greetz
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iTouch vs 5.5G ipod, no mod - this is not a lossless vs 320kbps VBR mp3 discussion.
I find the sound is pleasing through the headphone jack, but just like the 5.5G 80gb, it loses if you compare it to an iRiver optical out into an iBasso D1 DAC/AMP with the same 320kbps VBR files. Sorry, but I am hard pressed to hear the difference between lossless and 320kbps files on the same DAP. To me the point of the DAP is to carry many albums more easily than a few CD's. Yes, when I want the most accurate I pull out the CD player, and I can hear an improvement with concentrated listening, but 320kbps VBR are sooo close that for all intents and purposes I don't need lossless on my DAP to enjoy the music.
HEADPHONE JACK: VOLUME: Right now my iTouch is driving my HD600's at 100% volume with no distortion to a normal listening level, but to play loud with HD600's it needs an amp. It does drive my HD600's slightly louder than my 5.5G 80gb does. My 2G ipod nano would distort trying to drive these headphones to normal listening levels, at least the last time I checked. The touch will likely drive Shure E500's to damaging levels.
SOUND STAGE: with live recordings is a little bit compressed vs 5.5G (while the iRiver H140 improves on both). The touch's stage is more immediate and forward, having some of the spacial cues I hear with other sources, but everything seems closer, like being on stage and sitting at the piano instead of in the 1st row. ONE KEY ISSUE with the touch, I can't place the string bass in Jazz at the Pawnshop - it should be clearly to the rear left stage as with the 5.5G ipod, but I can't clearly put it on the stage when listening the touch.
SOUND and BALANCE: The touch is quick and punchy, and it is brighter and more detailed than my 5.5G 80gb. It sounds very different with AB comparison to my 80gb via headphone jack. The 5.5G 80gb has less treble, a hump in the upper mids, but a wider sound stage. Listening to the 5.5G you don't say, "hmmm this has a upper mid humps and rolled off highs", till you compare it to something else like the touch.
Via headphone jack, the iTouch may be more suited to Rock, Electronic, and other non-live music.
SWITCHING TO LOD to iBasso D1: SOUND STAGE opens up on both, but the iTouch does improve a lot more than it should. I think I like the touch better than the 5.5G 80gb with same dock, amp and program material
I wasn't expecting that. Shouldn't it be closer my friend's 6G classic that I tested before?
So, I moved on to listen to the Tord Gustavsen Trio in stead of Jazz at the Pawn Shop. Same thing, I like the touch better via LOD than the 5.5G via LOD. I can clearly place the string bass where it belongs now,
SOUND BALANCE makes up for a still slightly narrower sound stage now, since the stage has at least improved vs headphone jack. Everything seems more detailed (tactile) and brighter - Cymbals and snares don't sound as dull. Bass is quicker.
iTouch wont replace my iRiver optical or especially a CD player optical to iBasso's DAC, but it does give my 5.5G a run for the money via headphone jack, and beats it via LOD till I get it iModded.
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