iPhone 7 Will Revolutionize Portable Audio for the First Time in a Decade

[bflat]

180 GB of lossless files starting to copy to my IP 7. This has been an entertaining thread, but I will continue with the DAC thread as I start comparing all the different DACs including the pass through dongle.
 
Cheers gents

 

[RugbyPlayer]

Because people that do this for a living are actually saying so

http://www.chipworks.com/about-chipworks/overview/blog/apple-iphone-7-teardown

http://m.heise.de/ct/artikel/iPhone-7-nachgemessen-Audio-Adapter-liefert-schlechteren-Sound-3325932.html?wt_ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.head-fi.org%2Ft%2F794101%2Fiphone-7-will-revolutionize-portable-audio-for-the-first-time-in-a-decade%2F585&wt_t=1474063565362

They might be wrong but when the pros are saying it, we need proof

except they arent saying that, none of them have stated there is no DAC in the adapter. None. Additional amps means literally nothing

 

[bflat]

  except they arent saying that, none of them have stated there is no DAC in the adapter. None. Additional amps means literally nothing

I lied, one more post. Case in point - a 3rd amp can be simply dedicated for active ground to lower the noise floor of a very noisy system.

 

[Buzzkill93]

except they arent saying that, none of them have stated there is no DAC in the adapter. None. Additional amps means literally nothing

"This may indicate that in the adapter no separate D / A converter is seated, but the audio signal is already transmitted in analog form via the Lightning jack. Since the Lightning chips with their remote site in iPhone / iPad can each negotiate in the cable, which is transmitted, that would be quite possible"

Btw I'm having fun researching this instead of working

 

[MarkF786]

Interesting picture...
 

 

[franzdom]

  Not really no, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING supporting it being analog passthrough. Seriously why is this such an object of contention? 

 
If you feel so confident why do you keep spouting off?

 

[MarkF786]

 

 
http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/how-to-make-sure-you-wont-have-a“bricked”-set-of-lightning-earphones.1992848/
 
http://www.tronsmart.com/news/the-fundamental-difference-between-lightning-headphone-and-3.5mm-earphone

 

[MarkF786]

And the specified codec (CS42L42) for Apple's MFi program is 3.2mm x 3.2mm x 5mm in size.  It's quite easy to squeeze that in a lightning adapter

 

[swspiers]

All speculation until someone actually finds a DAC in there

Not really no, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING supporting it being analog passthrough. Seriously why is this such an object of contention? 

Because this is Head-fi, and this is what we do. Thread after thread, post after post, day in-day out. 24/7 of analyzing, critiquing, speculating, arguing, debating, and the occasional rage-quit from someone that can't hack it.

Do you have what it takes? Can you hang? Because one way or the other, we are going to get to the bottom of DAC-gate. And when we do, we are going to tear that sucker apart and argue about the voltage out, the topology, the implementation, the current draw, the dynamic range, and anything else we can think of.

And when that's done, we are going to investigate silver vs. copper cable, and when will Schiit make a multi-bit version with a nano-combo-burrito filter.

Any questions?

 

[Buzzkill93]

Because this is Head-fi, and this is what we do. Thread after thread, post after post, day in-day out. 24/7 of analyzing, critiquing, speculating, arguing, debating, and the occasional rage-quit from someone that can't hack it.

Do you have what it takes? Can you hang? Because one way or the other, we are going to get to the bottom of DAC-gate. And when we do, we are going to tear that sucker apart and argue about the voltage out, the topology, the implementation, the current draw, the dynamic range, and anything else we can think of.

And when that's done, we are going to investigate silver vs. copper cable, and when will Schiit make a multi-bit version with a nano-combo-burrito filter.

Any questions?

Hahaha well said

 

[svetlyo]

 

[SeeSax]

 

 
Wow, you did it!
 
So, is that a DAC?

 

[svetlyo]

Wow, you did it!

So, is that a DAC?

Sorry, these are pictures from the end of July, on some Vietnamese blog. Back then we didn't know if these are authentic but it seems exactly the same adapter.

 

[MarkF786]

Today my Focal Elear headphones arrived, and after spending an hour listening to them through the new lightning-to-3.5mm adapter, I'm convinced it's definitely "good enough" for anything I'll ever need for day-to-day use (and I always have my DragonFly Black and Chord Mojo if I want better).
 
It's simply amazing a 3.2mm x 3.2mm DAC & amp tucked into such a tiny little adapter can sound so good.  Apple could have avoided all the bad press by highlighting the technology embedded in the tiny adapter and in 3rd-party headphones.
 
Really the only downside I see is the inconvenience of requiring an adapter. 

 

[soundman414]

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