[SilverEars]

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Can You recommend a dsp for iphone?

 
Looks like it's available for iphone.  If you have the 5S, it could do 64 bit processing since iphone 5s has a 64 bit processor.  Mine it only 32 since Galaxy S4 is 32 bit processing.
 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/neutron-music-player/id766858884?mt=8

 

[SilverEars]

  The iPhone 5 measures pretty much perfect; it isn't the one at fault.

I'm not denying it measures well.  Lots of sources measures well, but sonically it could be different.  This is subjective I know since it's not measured objectively, but we cannot close ourselves of other variables that are not aware of that cannot be perceived objectively that adds to the sonic difference.  If you look at it, the sound measurements for headphones has not been perfected yet, Sean Olive is coming up with a new way to measure headphones, so lets keep our mind open.
 
The S4 measures well with 1.2 output impedance, and to me it has wider sound and with neutron it's clear sounding(probably more warmth although the graph is neutral). Fiio measures well with the lowest output impedance possible, but to my ears it sounds less natural or less analog.
 
If we limit ourselves to what knowledge, we can possibly limit your self to possibilities.  we might be missing out on lots of things that we are not willing to try and would enjoy.  I agree it's good to be skeptical to keep things in check, but it's also helpful to have an open mind.

 

[higbvuyb]

  I'm not denying it measures well.  Lots of sources measures well, but sonically it could be different.  This is subjective I know since it's not measured objectively, but we cannot close ourselves of other variables that are not aware of that cannot be perceived objectively that adds to the sonic difference.  If you look at it, the sound measurements for headphones has not been perfected yet, Sean Olive is coming up with a new way to measure headphones, so lets keep our mind open.
 
The S4 measures well with 1.2 output impedance, and to me it has wider sound and with neutron it's clear sounding(probably more warmth although the graph is neutral). Fiio measures well with the lowest output impedance possible, but to my ears it sounds less natural or less analog.
 
If we limit ourselves to what knowledge, we can possibly limit your self to possibilities.  we might be missing out on lots of things that we are not willing to try and would enjoy.  I agree it's good to be skeptical to keep things in check, but it's also helpful to have an open mind.

There is no sonic difference - at this point it's still an electrical signal and we are very good at comparing electrical signals.
 
Sean Olive is coming up with a FR target for headphones - hardly anything new or magically unprecedented.
 
I'm sure these differences will disappear on a blind test.

 

[MagnumOpus]

The iPhone 5 measures pretty much perfect; it isn't the one at fault.

Seriously?

So anything that measures perfect sounds perfect?

Wow, really....have you even listened to it?

It is one of the worst sounding daps out there...

 

[higbvuyb]

Seriously?

So anything that measures perfect sounds perfect?

You can't listen to a voltage. You can only listen to sounds.  The headphone out of the iPhone 5 produces an electrical signal, not a sound.
 

Wow, really....have you even listened to it?

It is one of the worst sounding daps out there...

Yes; it sounded great. There are many people who would agree with me.
 
This is why we have blind tests.

 

[MagnumOpus]

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You can't listen to a voltage. You can only listen to sounds.  The headphone out of the iPhone 5 produces an electrical signal, not a sound.

Yes; it sounded great. There are many people who would agree with me.

This is why we have blind tests.
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You cant listen to measurements either.

 

[higbvuyb]

You cant listen to measurements either.

Do you know how blind tests work?

 

[MagnumOpus]

Do you know how blind tests work?

You close your eyes?

 

[MagnumOpus]

Looks like it's available for iphone.  If you have the 5S, it could do 64 bit processing since iphone 5s has a 64 bit processor.  Mine it only 32 since Galaxy S4 is 32 bit processing.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/neutron-music-player/id766858884?mt=8

Looks allright, thank you, but I stream through Wimp so other players dont do any good.

 

[Achmedisdead]

Looks allright, thank you, but I stream through Wimp so other players dont do any good.

 
Definitely not audiophile.....

 

[MagnumOpus]

   
Definitely not audiophile.....

Whats wrong with lossless streaming?

 

[bigshot]

Nothing wrong with lossless streaming, notthing wrong with iPods either.

 

[higbvuyb]

You close your eyes?

You listen. So saying "You cant listen to measurements either" isn't relevant at all.

 

[MagnumOpus]

Well now, this is kind of awkward. I just got my new iPhone 5 so I had to download all my android apps from the appstore, and thus the Wimp for iphone. And the factory setting on this (allthough I subscribe to lossless streaming service) is aac 96kbps. Seems I had neglected to change the settings. That made all the difference. 

 

[KT66]

I recommend Capriccio as a FLAC playing app,
such a shame you can't get an analogue line out, as the headphone amp
is pretty pathetic.