Introducing Lotoo PAW Gold
Apr 2, 2015 at 3:29 PM Post #482 of 4,765
   
Ok..but that means that all the files must be in onlyr one folder (several thousands files..)
Is it long to make a playlist ? I mean, how does it work to make a playlist, you must select each sub-folder to add on the playlist (one by one ?) Or you can add a parent folder in the playlist and it adds all the sub-folders too ?
For example, if i have 2 folders, the first will be called A-L (which contains all sub folders in alphabetic order form A to L) and the second will be M-Z (with the same logical, with sub folders in alphabetic order from M to Z) , is it possoble to add the parent folder A-L in my playlist and the playlist will contain all the files of the sub-folder of A-L and i  do the same with the secon d folder M-Z, then with only 2 manipulations, i can have all files that contains my SD..? Does it work like that ?

When you use the play on the menu it will load all song in that folder and all sub folders. It will also load all of them in a play list if you want. So your A-L and M-Z would work fine.
 
Apr 2, 2015 at 4:02 PM Post #483 of 4,765
  Thanks for the photos Sonickarma, can the case be purchased in UK?
Have you tried CK10? Heard is a great match with Lotoo. Even Korta headphones sounded really good on DSD.


Hi, it was purchased from eBay seller shipped from Korea
 
Looks more elegant in the case and less 'brick-like' to me now.
 
I have the ATH-CKR9LTD excellent pairing with the Lotoo
 
Apr 2, 2015 at 8:05 PM Post #484 of 4,765
The issue with the 90 degree jack is limited to some jack, the one from oyadie for example have this problem but ADL and their parents company furutech don't have this problem.
 
Apr 2, 2015 at 8:08 PM Post #485 of 4,765
I've seen that case on US ebay as well. I like the plug recess but I only use straight plugs, I could see where you'd prefer something else with a right angle one. I had a right angle plug once but found it actually fatigued the cable more easily and put more lateral pressure on the jack in use, at least for me.
 
Apr 3, 2015 at 10:40 PM Post #486 of 4,765
The issue with the 90 degree jack is limited to some jack, the one from oyadie for example have this problem but ADL and their parents company furutech don't have this problem.

I agree. There's no industry standard to these things. :)
 
Apr 4, 2015 at 2:44 AM Post #487 of 4,765
   
Ok..but that means that all the files must be in onlyr one folder (several thousands files..)
Is it long to make a playlist ? I mean, how does it work to make a playlist, you must select each sub-folder to add on the playlist (one by one ?) Or you can add a parent folder in the playlist and it adds all the sub-folders too ?
For example, if i have 2 folders, the first will be called A-L (which contains all sub folders in alphabetic order form A to L) and the second will be M-Z (with the same logical, with sub folders in alphabetic order from M to Z) , is it possoble to add the parent folder A-L in my playlist and the playlist will contain all the files of the sub-folder of A-L and i  do the same with the secon d folder M-Z, then with only 2 manipulations, i can have all files that contains my SD..? Does it work like that ?

 
I have all my files in one folder and shuffle them from 'File' on the player instead of 'List'. Like you, I prefer to shuffle all my files (around a 1000, both Flac & DSD) instead of having them in folders, this works perfectly for me.
 
Apr 8, 2015 at 3:10 PM Post #488 of 4,765

This is one great DAP. Hard to fault, at least for how I use one. This has to be as good as anything out there with only function and flavor preferences. It's physically scaled well and a lot more portable than I expected.
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 I opened this one up to see inside for myself and it just beautifully made with proper bits. Large tants as added capacity etc. I have a tweak in mind but really, there's no reinventing the wheel here. Lotoo deserves a massive amount of credit for dropping something like this seemingly out of nowhere. Runs a 9v rail which should tell us why it can put out so much power. I'm warming up to hi gain even with efficient IEMs. There's a minor flavor difference between the 2 and as it ran in my preference for lo gain subsided. I'm not one to wax poetically so I'll just say that if you have the opportunity, listen to one and see if you can resist it.
 
Apr 8, 2015 at 8:27 PM Post #490 of 4,765
have you seen this: http://www.soomal.com/doc/20100005193.htm
 
Lotoo runs two 3.7v batteries, while HM901 runs two 7.4v batteries, not sure what difference that makes to power output, but at least Paw's using dual batteries which is much better than most daps with single. The tests show that in low gain the Paw looses nearly half of it's stereo separation, so that's an engineering problem. Other than that Paw's circuit seems exemplary, BTL amplification, large tant caps, blackfin processing, dual battery etc.
 
Apr 9, 2015 at 4:24 AM Post #491 of 4,765
I didn't pay much attention to the battery but I believe it said 7.x V on it. Could be 2 3.7v batteries packaged in series. I actually measured a significantly filtered rail on the device at 9v. Battery is easy to get to so maybe I'll look at it's markings again tomorrow but it's rated voltage and working rail voltages are not the same thing.
 
 I don't consider 82db of separation an engineering problem, LOL.
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 I don't think folks have an idea about how much and sufficient that is in practice. For instance, it's many multiples of any phono cartridge. Fortunately, if one has issue with it, the Lotoo exceeds 90 db through the entire spectrum in high gain while being quiet enough to use with efficient IEMs. That would actually be an advantage over things like the ak240 which doesn't have that switch or measure as much separation as the Lotoo in hi gain either... if I thought it mattered, which I don't beyond being a controllable variable. Lotoo could have just used a resistor bridge to reduce gain before the last stage to maintain it's spec if they felt it important to do so. Trust me when I say that if I know this, it didn't slip by them. Just nice that the Paw Gold is plenty quiet enough in hi gain and has more than sufficient volume steps to be used effectively with iems that way.
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Things like a dx90 and X5 measure well enough to compete with any of these so there's obviously a lot more to it. I've heard both and they don't compare with the previously mentioned players, at least for me.  HM-901 frequency response is over a db down in at 20k and it doesn't bother me either because it's also a great player that belongs in the previous group with the Lotoo Paw Gold and ak240. 
 
Apr 9, 2015 at 5:45 AM Post #492 of 4,765
Will it be possible with a special firmware to decrease the power output and prolong the battery life and reduce the heat?
Goodvibes can you tell us if the battery is easy to be replaced and if we can find them to buy aftermarket rather than sending the music player to Lotoo?
Thank you very much for additional information :)
 
Apr 9, 2015 at 6:05 AM Post #493 of 4,765
  I didn't pay much attention to the battery but I believe it said 7.x V on it. Could be 2 3.7v batteries packaged in series. I actually measured a significantly filtered rail on the device at 9v. Battery is easy to get to so maybe I'll look at it's markings again tomorrow but it's rated voltage and working rail voltages are not the same thing.

 
Yep I believe the Paw battery battery pack has 7.4v written on it, but because it has 6 pin wire out, that leads me to believe the Paw is not using the two 3.7v batteries in series, but rather using one 3.7v battery for each rail, while hm901 is using one 7.4v battery for each rail. As for the separation in low gain, the Paw starts at 95bd at 100hz and gradually drops to 55db at 20khz, I don't know if this is audible or not, only know that I haven't seen this in any other dap measurement.
 
Apr 9, 2015 at 6:41 AM Post #494 of 4,765
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Apr 9, 2015 at 6:49 AM Post #495 of 4,765
  Follow me, I didn't know there was no internal storage. Bummer.
 So what is the USB cable for then? When I stuck it in my MBP, nothing shows up on my Mac and the Lotoo screen just displays 'battery discharging'.

It is for file transferring to the SD card so you dont have to take it out each time you want to transfer file to the SD card.
 

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