Introducing HIFIMAN Ananda Nano

Oct 3, 2023 at 3:53 PM Post #211 of 1,056
Try that and make sure to lower your digital output by -6db:

LSC 24 dB Fc 40 Hz Gain 3 dB
PK Fc 95 Hz Gain -4 dB Q 2
PK Fc 93 Hz Gain 2 dB Q 7
PK Fc 175 Hz Gain 2.5 dB Q 3
PK Fc 550 Hz Gain 1.5 dB Q 5
PK Fc 740 Hz Gain 2 dB Q 9
PK Fc 970 Hz Gain 1.5 dB Q 12
PK Fc 2000 Hz Gain 3 dB Q 3
PK Fc 2900 Hz Gain 6 dB Q 2
HSC 6 dB Fc 4000 Hz Gain -8 dB

Take good notes that the first and last filter are respectively a Low Shelf Filter with a 24 db slope and a High Shelf Filter with a 6db Slope.

Those are approximate but will bring you in the ballpark so you get a better idea of the Sonarwork rendering and if it is for you or not.

EDIT: I just made some correction.
Now I’ve tried the EQ. I do see (and hear!) the point of the high shelf in taking the edge of the brightness. I do like the 6 dB slope, but cutting by -8 dB is just way too much.

This brings me to the bigger question: Why even buy the Ananda Nano in the first place if this is the tuning you’re after? Why not just go for something like the Sennheiser HD 600 which has a wonderful midrange but none of the technicalities of the Nano? That would get you much closer to what you seem to be after and at a much lower cost.

IMHO.
 
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Oct 3, 2023 at 4:41 PM Post #212 of 1,056
Now I’ve tried the EQ. I do see (and hear!) the point of the high shelf in taking the edge of the brightness. I do like the 6 dB slope, but cutting by -8 dB is just way too much.

This brings me to the bigger question: Why even buy the Ananda Nano in the first place if this is the tuning you’re after? Why not just go for something like the Sennheiser HD 600 which has a wonderful midrange but none of the technicalities of the Nano? That would get you much closer to what you seem to be after and at a much lower cost.

IMHO.
Gave this a try and agree. -8db kills the treble. Maybe -3db or max -4db and I set it at 3850hz with a Q 0.71
 
Oct 3, 2023 at 4:48 PM Post #213 of 1,056
Gave this a try and agree. -8db kills the treble. Maybe -3db or max -4db and I set it at 3850hz with a Q 0.71
High shelf?

Like it at 3850 Hz 👍

Edit: Max -3 dB for me.
 
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Oct 3, 2023 at 4:58 PM Post #214 of 1,056
Now I’ve tried the EQ. I do see (and hear!) the point of the high shelf in taking the edge of the brightness. I do like the 6 dB slope, but cutting by -8 dB is just way too much.

This brings me to the bigger question: Why even buy the Ananda Nano in the first place if this is the tuning you’re after? Why not just go for something like the Sennheiser HD 600 which has a wonderful midrange but none of the technicalities of the Nano? That would get you much closer to what you seem to be after and at a much lower cost.

IMHO.
It’s just a professional tuning vs what you are used to as an hi fi tuning.

Harman is a home listening curve. I don’t do enjoyment listening.
 
Oct 3, 2023 at 5:01 PM Post #215 of 1,056
It’s just a professional tuning vs what you are used to as an hi fi tuning.

Harman is a home listening curve. I don’t do enjoyment listening.
Just to be clear, I don’t use or enjoy the Harman curve either.
 
Oct 4, 2023 at 2:32 AM Post #216 of 1,056
Try that and make sure to lower your digital output by -6db:

LSC 24 dB Fc 40 Hz Gain 3 dB
PK Fc 95 Hz Gain -4 dB Q 2
PK Fc 93 Hz Gain 2 dB Q 7
PK Fc 175 Hz Gain 2.5 dB Q 3
PK Fc 550 Hz Gain 1.5 dB Q 5
PK Fc 740 Hz Gain 2 dB Q 9
PK Fc 970 Hz Gain 1.5 dB Q 12
PK Fc 2000 Hz Gain 3 dB Q 3
PK Fc 2900 Hz Gain 6 dB Q 2
HSC 6 dB Fc 4000 Hz Gain -8 dB

Take good notes that the first and last filter are respectively a Low Shelf Filter with a 24 db slope and a High Shelf Filter with a 6db Slope.

Those are approximate but will bring you in the ballpark so you get a better idea of the Sonarwork rendering and if it is for you or not.

EDIT: I just made some correction.
Are the Q values whole as 2.00 or 00.20 as example?
 
Oct 4, 2023 at 2:34 AM Post #217 of 1,056
Now I have to take that back, I got this one wrong.

Yesterday I had a longer listening session with a large variety of songs and after a while it became fatiguing. The treble is just too much of a good thing. It needs EQ to tame the brightness.

Edit: Replied to the wrong post. The post I meant to reply to was me saying that the Nano is a favourite without EQ.
 
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Oct 4, 2023 at 2:40 AM Post #218 of 1,056
Now I have to take that back, I got this one wrong.

Yesterday I had a longer listening session with a large variety of songs and after a while it became fatiguing. The treble is just too much of a good thing. It needs EQ to tame the brightness.
I don't mind the treble. But yes on some tracks it can be bright. For someone that wants to keep the tuning untouched but tame that treble. The easiest eq is that highshelf of -3 db at 3850hz Q 0.71. It keeps the same tuning just bringing treble and some high mids down a touch where it's not drastic but enough to tame it and make music that little bit smoother
 
Oct 4, 2023 at 2:45 AM Post #219 of 1,056
I don't mind the treble. But yes on some tracks it can be bright. For someone that wants to keep the tuning untouched but tame that treble. The easiest eq is that highshelf of -3 db at 3850hz Q 0.71. It keeps the same tuning just bringing treble and some high mids down a touch where it's not drastic but enough to tame it and make music that little bit smoother
Come weekend I’m going to experiment with where to put that shelf.

My idea is to try it at different points between 3850-6000 Hz. To my ears -3 dB was to much at 3850 but it might be to my liking a bit higher up the range :thumbsup:
 
Oct 4, 2023 at 3:15 AM Post #220 of 1,056
Come weekend I’m going to experiment with where to put that shelf.

My idea is to try it at different points between 3850-6000 Hz. To my ears -3 dB was to much at 3850 but it might be to my liking a bit higher up the range :thumbsup:
This is the graph I got from DMS video.
Screenshot_20231004_181112_YouTube.jpg


Maybe between 4000hz is the way to go. I'll do some testing too and see what I can do 😊 I think try a lesser amount of db. So maybe 2 db. But also a higher Q value
 
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Oct 4, 2023 at 9:10 AM Post #221 of 1,056
This is the graph I got from DMS video.
Screenshot_20231004_181112_YouTube.jpg

Maybe between 4000hz is the way to go. I'll do some testing too and see what I can do 😊 I think try a lesser amount of db. So maybe 2 db. But also a higher Q value
Looking at the measurements maybe it’s smarter to put the shelf at around 5-6 kHz but to also add a peak filter to adress the frequencies below by using a wider/higher Q?
 

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