iFP-899 - pros and cons

Aug 6, 2004 at 9:07 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 5

JaZZ

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Few weeks ago my iFP-395T had a defect on the «on» button (quite common with this series, as it seems, since my son had the same issue). So instead of a mere guarantee replacement I chose to pay an extra charge and get the iFP-899. I had a hard time deciding between 799 and 899, but finally went for the latter just because of the look.

Originally I wasn't planning to upgrade from 512 MB to 1 GB -- I thought the difference isn't worth it: it's still far from the capacity of a HD-based player which really would allow to carry all (or at least the essential of) my MP3 collection with me, whereas a flash-based player would always make you decide for a selection according to the current preferences. But now I think it does make a difference -- it's fun to have really all your preferred tracks with you instead of just half of them.

I'm an absolute shuffle-play guy. I want to be surprised what comes next. What the hell... why do I always hear the same songs, while others are never played? It turned out that the shuffle play is all but random. It's a fixed playlist that never changes unless you change the content of the memory. And unfortunately it has the bad habit to play more or less the same songs after each restart (resume enabled or not). Hence if you don't listen 12 hours or so in one piece, only a fraction of the stored music files are played at all. That's a serious bug, if you ask me. iRiver managed to do the shuffle play right with the previous iFP models, and now this! At least there's a shuffle play «enhancement» announced for the next firmware update (end of August). We'll see if it brings a real random play.

To the positive aspects: there's the approved, quite useful graphic 5-band equalizer (something iHP owners can only dream of, like a real shuffle play BTW). You just have to manage to disable iRiver's childish sound enhancers enabled by default -- which is a bit tricky at first go. Apart from this he GUI is quite intuitive and easy to be learned. It has a built-in FM radio which I haven't tried yet -- I expect it to be the same as with the iFP-395T, so it should have a decent sensitivity and very good sound. Futhermore you can record from the radio as well as through external microphones or the internal one («voice record») or other analog or digital sources with a wide variety of MP3 bit and sample rates. Sorry again, I haven't tried this feature. All my files are ripped from CDs or digitalized from vinyl with my soundcard. The user manual sais it can play MP3, OGG Vorbis, WMA and ASF. I still haven't one single OGG Vorbis file, so can't comment on the functionality, but according to the iRiver forum it works indeed.

Now to most important thing: the sound. There were very clear sonic changes during the first dozen hours, from a slightly peaky to a rather rolled-off and overly smooth treble. The end result is a very neutral sonic balance with extended frequency response to both directions. The highs are even finer and better defined than with the iFP-395T, and the bass appears to be slightly fuller and deeper. The midrange is well defined and smooth. Dynamics and resolution are excellent for such a compact, battery-driven player. Overall the sound is very smooth and quite natural. It still reminds a bit of iRiver's house sound with its slight coolness and sleekness, but nevertheless is more organic, and the latter attributes are less pronounced than with the iFP-395T, not to speak of the iHPs with their tendency to «glassiness». In turn this makes it a bit forgiving with lower bitrates, which is a good thing for a flash player and its limited memory space.

All in all I'm very happy with the sound quality. With my (modded) ER-4P or the PX 200 I feel like wearing a portable high-end system on my upper arm. Well, almost, given that on the go you are far less critical, with all the distracting optical impressions. I really hope that the annoying shuffle-play issue will be solved with the next firmware. Apart from this the iFP-899, with the ER-4P, is like an audiophile dream come true I never had hoped for ten yeas ago: Without having to carry anything around, you have a huge music collection with you played in a phantasmagoric sound quality...
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Aug 6, 2004 at 3:55 PM Post #2 of 5
Nice. I'm a iriver flash player supporter, I think they have pretty good sound. You're right about the buttons though. They break break very easily (I.e, the button wouldn't depress). This has never happened to me, but to my friends.
 
Aug 7, 2004 at 5:14 PM Post #3 of 5
I had the 799 for a few days. Impressive player!
The shuffle is weird, indeed.
What annoyed me was the batterylife 40+ hours sure, but I used EQ and Ogg, leaves you something like 20 hrs.
but the worst thing was, since even 1 Gb isn't very much I did a lot of uploading; that reallykills the battery, a alkaline was usually more then half drained if I filled up the whole 1 Gb. Tip: use recharcables when uploading.

The main reason why I got rid of it was strangely enough sound quality. I was good, very good b ut also very dynamic. Listening in quiet surroundings was fantastic, best paslyer I ever heart (despite the audible level of white noise people complain about; it is there but not a big deal during listening IMO).
But in surroundings with lots of backgroundnoise, like on the treain or on my bike, for which I bough the player mainly dynamic instruments like drums were heart, unless I turned up the volume to levels which gave me an earpain after an hour; couldn't be healthy. (and I use incanal phones, this problem probably gets worse with fonotopiatype phones)

I agree with the observation the player started to sound much better after a few hours.

It's an impressive little machine; have fun with it.
 
Aug 7, 2004 at 7:02 PM Post #4 of 5
Good to know the newer models are good too. I broke my 195TC so I'm thinking of getting either 795 or 895 if my insurance company doesn't go all bitchy.
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The 700 and 800 series are exactly the same players apart for their looks, right? Makes it really hard to decide which one to get. The 700 business-like dignity or the 800 street coolness.

Btw the player drives those Etys well without an amp?
 
Aug 9, 2004 at 3:20 PM Post #5 of 5
I was lucky, my player doesn't have the white-noise issue. It's dead silent. I guess it's one of the newer, reworked series.

The 700 and 800 are technically the same AFAIK. Yes, it drives the ER-4P with ease. I wouldn't consider the ER-4S though -- I've tried the P with a 120-ohm adapter, and the volume level wasn't really satisfying. It worked with a P --> X adapter with 35-ohm resistors though. But I would stay with the P with (possibly) +3 dB setting at 14 kHz to compensate for its slight treble roll-off. That way you get the best sound combined with maximum efficiency.

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