iFi Zen Stream: Setup, Tips, Tricks...
Sep 20, 2022 at 2:30 PM Post #421 of 1,569
With all the testing I been doing with different modes, turning the selector switch with the provided tool is a bit of a pain, especially if the rear is difficult to access.
I made a simple key using one of those 2 pin universal power supply connectors. Flattened the pins slightly with pliers to provide a snug fit into the selector slot.
Knob stays in place, feels secure and easy to switch modes now!

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Sep 20, 2022 at 3:13 PM Post #422 of 1,569
With all the testing I been doing with different modes, turning the selector switch with the provided tool is a bit of a pain, especially if the rear is difficult to access.
I made a simple knob using one of those 2 pin universal power supply connectors. Flattened the pins slightly with pliers to provide a snug fit into the selector slot.
Knob stays in place, feels secure and easy to switch modes now!


I was about to write that a regular flat screwdriver would also work, but now I see what you did there. Your solution can attach to the rotary switch and stay in place, very cool :)
 
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Sep 20, 2022 at 3:26 PM Post #424 of 1,569
I've tried again. Same thing. I have to go back to Settings, Audio, and click again on SAVE (although SPDIF is showing as selected), to get sound back.
Just came back after a little over two-hour power off, and again I had no issue with the equipment I posted earlier, so not having to reselect the spdif output in Roon.

I'm a little at a loss, we have to be missing something, yes I am one of those "sometimes it's the little things", lol.

If you want PM me your chain again, including power supplies, brands, and DDCs... anything in the chain please and I will look at it again. Include what you are running your Roon core on, windows, mac, nuc, please.

In the meantime, I would definitely fill out a support ticket, as it's not like I didn't see this behavior, as I say we are missing something here.
 
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Sep 20, 2022 at 3:28 PM Post #425 of 1,569
With all the testing I been doing with different modes, turning the selector switch with the provided tool is a bit of a pain, especially if the rear is difficult to access.
I made a simple key using one of those 2 pin universal power supply connectors. Flattened the pins slightly with pliers to provide a snug fit into the selector slot.
Knob stays in place, feels secure and easy to switch modes now!

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So, an order can be placed where??

That's awesome! :beerchug:

Cheers!!
 
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Sep 20, 2022 at 3:50 PM Post #426 of 1,569
After @Vangelo showed us his brilliant tool, I feel compelled to share my not-in-the-same-league cheater tool!

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Rock on!!

Cheers!!
 
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Sep 20, 2022 at 4:09 PM Post #427 of 1,569
Just came back after a little over two-hour power off, and again I had no issue with the equipment I posted earlier, so not having to reselect the spdif output in Roon.

I'm a little at a loss, we have to be missing something, yes I am one of those "sometimes it's the little things", lol.

If you want PM me your chain again, including power supplies, brands, and DDCs... anything in the chain please and I will look at it again. Include what you are running your Roon core on, windows, mac, nuc, please.

In the meantime, I would definitely fill out a support ticket, as it's not like I didn't see this behavior, as I say we are missing something here.
Thank you. I'm using a windows notebook as a Core but ordered a NUC and expect to start using it within 3 weeks. So, I'll wait until then to look into this again.
 
Sep 20, 2022 at 4:53 PM Post #429 of 1,569
Cool Bubba! Does it stay in place tho? :thinking:
For the most part yes! As long as you don't touch it the wrong way!! Lmao

You can't have the wifi antenna attached either!

Cheers!!
 
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Sep 21, 2022 at 6:51 PM Post #430 of 1,569
Does anyone have a trick to turn off led for hotspot.
I tried all the options. Holding the button longer does not work. In the options (network) turned off the hotspot, of course clicked on the save button, it doesn't work. Turned off the wireless network, it doesn't work.
I waited 60 seconds (as it says in the manual) to see if the hotspot request will just turn off, it doesn't work.
At some point the setting was saved but for a short time. After I returned to Roon mode from all in one mode, the light started shining again.
Is a hammer the only option that would help?
 
Sep 21, 2022 at 6:55 PM Post #431 of 1,569
Does anyone have a trick to turn off led for hotspot.
I tried all the options. Holding the button longer does not work. In the options (network) turned off the hotspot, of course clicked on the save button, it doesn't work. Turned off the wireless network, it doesn't work.
I waited 60 seconds (as it says in the manual) to see if the hotspot request will just turn off, it doesn't work.
At some point the setting was saved but for a short time. After I returned to Roon mode from all in one mode, the light started shining again.
Is a hammer the only option that would help?
The hotspot is disabled by holding the button for 3 seconds, by this I mean 1,2, on 3 let go...

See if that works...

If it doesn't as you said you tried from inside the menu (stream-ifi app) should do it, if not you may have to do the first post reset and make sure it isn't on from the get-go...

Let me know,

Cheers!!
 
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Sep 22, 2022 at 3:53 AM Post #432 of 1,569
Yes, only a hard reset helped.
Before that no matter what I did the hotspot turned on by itself. e.g. While I've playing the song, via bubble upnp, there was an interruption, and at that moment a magical hot spot light appeared.
I have been using Zen for almost a year. He is excellent in the matter of SQ. But now is the moment I have to replace it. I can't stand his constant outbursts.
I've never been able to solve the constant drop outs when in upnp mode, no matter what app/setting I used.
 
Sep 22, 2022 at 4:41 AM Post #433 of 1,569
I have now tested Tidal with ZS in 3 Modes.....AIO, Mode 3 Tidal connect & Mode 5 DNLA (Bubble UPNP).
This was not a test for SQ, but rather, what quirks each mode would reveal.

I am one of those individuals that turns equipment off at night using a master switch. These quirks were usually revealed in the morning when I come to switch the system on.

AIO Mode: This worked reliably once I accessed the iFi App and told it to switch to USB. Always defaulted to SPDIF. This may be system dependent as I use and Audio-GD DDC. I tried various USB leads and switch on sequences, but more often than not, I had to use the app and select USB. Worked reliably once connection established.

Mode 3 Tidal Connect: I first entered this mode from AIO by switching off ZS and turning selector on rear. I was pleased it worked right away when I switched ZS back on.
Not so pleased in the morning when I could not get to connect. I tried all the usual things...reboots, switch on sequence etc. iFi renderer was there but would not connect.
I thought the ZS had defaulted to SPDIF again, but before checking AIO mode (because app not accessible in any other mode) I Uninstalled/Reinstalled Tidal. That sorted, and has been fine every morning since!

Mode 5 DNLA (Bubble UPNP): This actually had the fewest quirks. In the morning, I just had to stop/restart Bubble and it worked reliably. I would stick to this mode personally, as it allows you to play files from SD card, but I just dont like the Tidal interface, so am using Mode 3 at the moment.

All might change tho............
 
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Sep 22, 2022 at 7:16 AM Post #434 of 1,569
I have now tested Tidal with ZS in 3 Modes.....AIO, Mode 3 Tidal connect & Mode 5 DNLA (Bubble UPNP).
This was not a test for SQ, but rather, what quirks each mode would reveal.

I am one of those individuals that turns equipment off at night using a master switch. These quirks were usually revealed in the morning when I come to switch the system on.

AIO Mode: This worked reliably once I accessed the iFi App and told it to switch to USB. Always defaulted to SPDIF. This may be system dependent as I use and Audio-GD DDC. I tried various USB leads and switch on sequences, but more often than not, I had to use the app and select USB. Worked reliably once connection established.

Mode 3 Tidal Connect: I first entered this mode from AIO by switching off ZS and turning selector on rear. I was pleased it worked right away when I switched ZS back on.
Not so pleased in the morning when I could not get to connect. I tried all the usual things...reboots, switch on sequence etc. iFi renderer was there but would not connect.
I thought the ZS had defaulted to SPDIF again, but before checking AIO mode (because app not accessible in any other mode) I Uninstalled/Reinstalled Tidal. That sorted, and has been fine every morning since!

Mode 5 DNLA (Bubble UPNP): This actually had the fewest quirks. In the morning, I just had to stop/restart Bubble and it worked reliably. I would stick to this mode personally, as it allows you to play files from SD card, but I just dont like the Tidal interface, so am using Mode 3 at the moment.

All might change tho............
Thanks for the testing, as a note for you you do not have to power off the ZS when switching modes, it can be done with no harm in its power-on state, perhaps this may alleviate some of your issues. Just be sure to give it a moment to calibrate itself and be ready for the switch you have selected.

Cheers!!
 
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Sep 22, 2022 at 7:22 AM Post #435 of 1,569
Yes, only a hard reset helped.
Before that no matter what I did the hotspot turned on by itself. e.g. While I've playing the song, via bubble upnp, there was an interruption, and at that moment a magical hot spot light appeared.
I have been using Zen for almost a year. He is excellent in the matter of SQ. But now is the moment I have to replace it. I can't stand his constant outbursts.
I've never been able to solve the constant drop outs when in upnp mode, no matter what app/setting I used.
These dropouts you refer to, what is it that's dropping out? Streaming? Local Files? Wifi? Wired?

Cheers!!
 
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