iFi ZEN DAC discussion + impression
Nov 18, 2020 at 6:15 AM Post #451 of 1,768
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Nov 18, 2020 at 9:06 PM Post #452 of 1,768
I discovered something, using Audirvana...

When I choose WASAPI

DSD, up to 64
PCM, up to 192
MQA stream all play fine, The Carpenters with The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra is MQA 24/192 and output shows 24/192. Zen DAC light is Magenta.

When I choose ASIO (iFi device driver 3.2 installed)

DSD, up to 256
PCM, up to 384
MQA stream play fine, *but* shows 24/96 from the same The Carpenters album from above. Zen DAC light is Magenta.

Also using ASIO, there are many MQA tracks where the output does not match the input where some causes the light to turn Yellow!

Can someone from iFi explain what is going on?
 
Nov 19, 2020 at 4:41 AM Post #453 of 1,768
I discovered something, using Audirvana...

When I choose WASAPI

DSD, up to 64
PCM, up to 192
MQA stream all play fine, The Carpenters with The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra is MQA 24/192 and output shows 24/192. Zen DAC light is Magenta.

When I choose ASIO (iFi device driver 3.2 installed)

DSD, up to 256
PCM, up to 384
MQA stream play fine, *but* shows 24/96 from the same The Carpenters album from above. Zen DAC light is Magenta.

Also using ASIO, there are many MQA tracks where the output does not match the input where some causes the light to turn Yellow!

Can someone from iFi explain what is going on?

I'll need to check this internally and once I know something I'll let you know :)
 
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Nov 19, 2020 at 5:20 AM Post #455 of 1,768
Appreciate it!

Still, I wouldn't worry as long as you're getting magenta LED during MQA playback. This means that your ZEN in fact gets MQA stream to work on. Yellow LED indicates PCM subject to our GTO firmware (with 5.3c installed).

Also using ASIO, there are many MQA tracks where the output does not match the input where some causes the light to turn Yellow!

In this case I'd check your player's settings. It seems that with ASIO there is some data alteration somewhere, which is what prevents MQA to be MQA.
 
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Nov 19, 2020 at 8:44 AM Post #456 of 1,768
Setting my issues aside, the Zen DAC is the best $129 I have spent my money on.

All my headphones and IEM - AKG K702, K240 STUDIO, HIFIMAN HE400i, Audeze LCDi3, Huawei AM180, Sony XBA-A2, Flipears Custom IEM, ALL sounded good!

I wish this will be my motivation to finally design and 3D print the headband of my Focal Spirit Pro so I can also hear it with the Zen DAC.

My first iFi product is the iPhono 2 which I love for its price point. Why am I no longer surprised, Thorsten has waved his magic wand once more. Indidentally, I've interacted with him and sort of became my accidental mentor during our days at Audio Asylum.
 
Nov 19, 2020 at 2:38 PM Post #457 of 1,768
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Nov 19, 2020 at 9:27 PM Post #458 of 1,768
Here's a sample of the issue I mentioned previously. Using the David Elias MQA demo track.

WASAPI
Screenshot_20201118-215044_Audirvana (R).jpg


But in ASIO (iFi device driver v3.2)
Screenshot_20201118-214937_Audirvana (R).jpg


Since WASAPI is limited to PCM 192/DSD64, I have to change to ASIO to play higher resolution files, but this mode affects the MQA sampling rate and the track above no longer shows magenta on the Zen DAC.

To complicate matters, this is how the Zen DAC is seen by Audirvana on my Mac mini.
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Nov 20, 2020 at 8:57 AM Post #459 of 1,768
Hi,

Do zen dac front panel lights glow when connected to external charger?

When I connect the external charger, green light glows right next to the power socket but to my surprise there isn't a light glowing on the front panel. The front panel light works only when connecting to a device using a USB cable. This means that my Zen Dac is not accepting the external 5v power supply or this is how it is designed?

Shadrick
 
Nov 20, 2020 at 5:42 PM Post #460 of 1,768
Hi,

Do zen dac front panel lights glow when connected to external charger?

When I connect the external charger, green light glows right next to the power socket but to my surprise there isn't a light glowing on the front panel. The front panel light works only when connecting to a device using a USB cable. This means that my Zen Dac is not accepting the external 5v power supply or this is how it is designed?

Shadrick

Can you please take a photo for me to see?


Here's a sample of the issue I mentioned previously. Using the David Elias MQA demo track.

WASAPI

But in ASIO (iFi device driver v3.2)

Since WASAPI is limited to PCM 192/DSD64, I have to change to ASIO to play higher resolution files, but this mode affects the MQA sampling rate and the track above no longer shows magenta on the Zen DAC.

To complicate matters, this is how the Zen DAC is seen by Audirvana on my Mac mini.

Can you please let us know about this here: https://support.ifi-audio.com

The fastest way would be to ask our tech team about this via a support ticket :)
 
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