ifI iCan Pro - Impressions & Discussion
Mar 2, 2018 at 5:07 AM Post #1,036 of 2,267
I am also interested in this, as I use a Logitech Harmony remote for all my setups. Maybe iFi would be AMR? If not, one can always "teach" the majority of Logitech remotes using the original remote (iFi in this case)...

Hi bfmcosta. Teaching will work.

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Mar 7, 2018 at 10:24 PM Post #1,037 of 2,267
Ughhh... Please don't tempt me with the iDAC! "Breaking in the Yggy with the iCAN as we speak. And I must say it's a wonderful combo! Best system I've ever heard. My 2nd gen WA7's are jealous my Jotunheim/Mimby is in a box and my wallet hates me!

How much better than the WA7's as I just picked a WA7d for my Aeons at 799. Plus the upgraded tubes.
 
Mar 9, 2018 at 1:54 PM Post #1,038 of 2,267
Ummm, not a review by any means...just my first thoughts/impressions of this beast of an amp/DAC. It'll probably take me a bit to get there, since I tend to take the long approach. First, I've been using and Auralic Stack (Vega + Taurus MKII) for approximately a year. I love it far better than anything I owned before it (Woo WA7 + WA7tp, Burson Conductor SL and other lesser Dac/Amp combos). I have a collection of headphones to include the HE1000 V2's, HD800's, TH900's and T1's and have sold off AKG 712's and Audeze LCD-2's (Fazor) that I didn't like as much as the aforementioned. I was getting ready to sell my T1's as well to finalize my collection down to my favorite 3 sets of headphones. I considered the T1's as great all around headphones, but they were no where near as good (in my very unprofessional opinion) as the HE-1000 V2's (same "all around" category for me), so I decided to put them up for auction. OK...now to the ifi iCAN Pro. I saw a special on Adorama a short while back for $400 off the retail price and couldn't resist pulling the plug...thanks Paypal Credit. I didn't think it would even come close to competing with the Auralic Taurus MKII, but I missed having a tube amp and thought I'd give it a try. It arrived the other day, and I put off doing anything with it for a couple of days. Yesterday, I finally hooked it up my Auralic Vega DAC via RCA connectors and fired it up in tube mode (middle dial), 18dB (high) gain, 10Hz Xbass with 3D set to the "off" position and let it sit there for a while to warm up. I broke out the T1's for a listen as I haven't used them in quite a while. I couldn't believe my ears. Right out of the box this thing sounded better with the T1's than my Taurus MKII without even burning the darn thing in. I thought my ears MUST be playing tricks on me, so I did an A/B with the Taurus (both amps conveniently hooked up at the same time via XLR and RCA). Yep....the ifi sounds better with the T1's, and not just by a little...a lot better. To me, for comparisons sake, the T1's with the Auralic/ifi combo sound as good or better than the HE-1000 V2's with the Auralic stack. The bass was more pronounced and the treble sibilance was gone. I listened to tons of different music genres (DSD Dire Straits, HD Elton John, HD Eagles, HD Doobie Brothers, lossless Eminem, DMC OST, etc...you get the drift). My guess (100% guess, since I don't know what the he#$ I'm talking about) is that the T1's were underpowered with the Taurus...is that even possible? I've read many reviews that state the Taurus has plenty of power, even enough for the hard to drive HE-6's. I was in audio nirvana for several hours yesterday...so much so, that I didn't bother trying the ifi with any other headphones and/or experimenting with any of my initial settings. I just sat there listening with my jaw dropped. I'm pretty sure the Auralic Vega has a lot to do with my listening pleasure, as it's a pretty incredible DAC. I can't wait to try the ifi with my other headphones to see if I experience a sound improvement with those as well. I'm not sure what to think, as the Auralic stack was my "end game" setup. I have to wonder just how good the ifi will sound after 100+ hours through it...can it get that much better? Also, I'm very interested in reading replies to this threat now, because I want to see what others are experiencing what I did with their listening sessions with the ifi, since everyone's ears are different (mine happen to be OLD). Wow....color me impressed!

in your opinion how much better is the Pro-iCAN to the WA7 as I just got a WA7d on Monday and on Thursday got a great deal on a Pro iCAN <1,000.00
 
Mar 11, 2018 at 1:00 PM Post #1,039 of 2,267
in your opinion how much better is the Pro-iCAN to the WA7 as I just got a WA7d on Monday and on Thursday got a great deal on a Pro iCAN <1,000.00
It really depends on the set of headphones your using your setup with. I've been using the Pro-iCAN for a while now, and I really only prefer it to the Taurus MKII with two of my headphones: The T1's & the LCD4's. It all comes down to a matter of taste really. I guess the two I mentioned just needed more power to show what they were capable of, and the Pro-iCAN has that in spades. I love it with all of my headphones, but the MKII edges it out on all but the two I mentioned. The WA7d is an excellent setup as well, so you can't go wrong there. Happy listening!
 
Mar 13, 2018 at 1:15 AM Post #1,040 of 2,267
It really depends on the set of headphones your using your setup with. I've been using the Pro-iCAN for a while now, and I really only prefer it to the Taurus MKII with two of my headphones: The T1's & the LCD4's. It all comes down to a matter of taste really. I guess the two I mentioned just needed more power to show what they were capable of, and the Pro-iCAN has that in spades. I love it with all of my headphones, but the MKII edges it out on all but the two I mentioned. The WA7d is an excellent setup as well, so you can't go wrong there. Happy listening!

Hello, I also have a LCD-4 and I'm looking for a second helmet, SVP that brings the T1, compared with the LCD-4, thanks
 
Mar 19, 2018 at 4:07 PM Post #1,042 of 2,267
it just seems I am having tons of back luck, bought on march-10-2018 both the ifi pro ican and ifi dsd micro black label. The BL was sent back to ifi to replace due to noise issues. Anyway got home today and I tried to turn on the ifi pro ican and it did not turn on, I looked at the power supply and the white light was not on, tried the power supply alone without connecting it to the amp on different power outlets at home, nothing no sign of the white light on the ipower supply.

I am so unhappy, why all these problems. It was working fine yesterday, what happened I have no clue, so I opened a ticket with ifi, which again hope it gets solved fast. Until then my question is can I use a third party power supply or not?
 
Mar 19, 2018 at 4:19 PM Post #1,043 of 2,267
it just seems I am having tons of back luck, bought on march-10-2018 both the ifi pro ican and ifi dsd micro black label. The BL was sent back to ifi to replace due to noise issues. Anyway got home today and I tried to turn on the ifi pro ican and it did not turn on, I looked at the power supply and the white light was not on, tried the power supply alone without connecting it to the amp on different power outlets at home, nothing no sign of the white light on the ipower supply.

I am so unhappy, why all these problems. It was working fine yesterday, what happened I have no clue, so I opened a ticket with ifi, which again hope it gets solved fast. Until then my question is can I use a third party power supply or not?
Sorry to hear about your issues. The short answer to your question is "Yes", you can use any DC power supply capable of output 9V/6.7A to 18V/3.35A. I have been using mine with different 12VDC power supply for awhile with good result.
 
Mar 19, 2018 at 4:29 PM Post #1,044 of 2,267
Has anyone found a power supply for the Pro iCan that actually improves the sound. I have wondered about trying a good one... like maybe the Uptone Audio JS-2... but, it is expensive to try. Has anyone tried that one?
 
Mar 19, 2018 at 4:33 PM Post #1,045 of 2,267
Sorry to hear about your issues. The short answer to your question is "Yes", you can use any DC power supply capable of output 9V/6.7A to 18V/3.35A. I have been using mine with different 12VDC power supply for awhile with good result.
can i ask if there anything special bout ifi power supply that third part ones would affect negatively if used instead the original one
 
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Mar 19, 2018 at 4:41 PM Post #1,046 of 2,267
can i ask if there anything special bout ifi power supply that third part ones would affect negatively if used instead the original one
I can't see there is anything special about iFI power supply that another good quality low output noise power supply cannot accomplish.


Has anyone found a power supply for the Pro iCan that actually improves the sound. I have wondered about trying a good one... like maybe the Uptone Audio JS-2... but, it is expensive to try. Has anyone tried that one?
I happened to be using this exact power supply with good results, and improved SQ in both detail level and dynamic.
 
Mar 19, 2018 at 5:00 PM Post #1,047 of 2,267
can i ask if there anything special bout ifi power supply that third part ones would affect negatively if used instead the original one

Yes, the iFi power supply is a switching type (low cost), but has iFi noise cancelling technology that measures as well as linear power supplies (high cost). If you do opt for a 3rd party, you will want a low noise linear power supply, but in the power rating needed for the iCan Pro, it will be very expensive like the Uptone.

Something you may want to try that is cheaper is a good switching DC power supply with the iFi DC Purifer. I would imagine it's similar to what is already inside the iFi power supply and sells for $100 USD:

https://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/accessory-dcipurifier/
 
Mar 19, 2018 at 5:09 PM Post #1,048 of 2,267
Yes, the iFi power supply is a switching type (low cost), but has iFi noise cancelling technology that measures as well as linear power supplies (high cost). If you do opt for a 3rd party, you will want a low noise linear power supply, but in the power rating needed for the iCan Pro, it will be very expensive like the Uptone.

Something you may want to try that is cheaper is a good switching DC power supply with the iFi DC Purifer. I would imagine it's similar to what is already inside the iFi power supply and sells for $100 USD:

https://ifi-audio.com/portfolio-view/accessory-dcipurifier/

well then I will wait for ifi to respond to the ticket I opened instead of using a third party power supply as how will I even know if the third party power supply has low output noise , I just used the amp for a week and now this happens, I hope ifi will send a replacement soon
 
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Mar 20, 2018 at 3:50 AM Post #1,049 of 2,267
can I use this as a power supply, until I figure out the issue I have with ifi own power supply 20180320_093717 (1).jpg
 
Mar 21, 2018 at 7:33 AM Post #1,050 of 2,267
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