[iFi audio]

Hi All,
 
On the power supply and things, the mini iDSD is still quite a few months away - end of 2014.
 
Once we have the micro iDSD out which is starting this week, then we can clear the decks.
 
The next project is the iFi Retro and then mini iDSD come a little after that. So by all means, chime in and we'll speed this up closer to the time!
 
Thanks

 

[obsidyen]

  Hi All,
 
On the power supply and things, the mini iDSD is still quite a few months away - end of 2014.
 
Once we have the micro iDSD out which is starting this week, then we can clear the decks.
 
The next project is the iFi Retro and then mini iDSD come a little after that. So by all means, chime in and we'll speed this up closer to the time!
 
Thanks

Might I ask what iFi Retro is? iFi products are getting more interesting everyday.

 

[technobear]

 
Hi All,

On the power supply and things, the mini iDSD is still quite a few months away - end of 2014.

Once we have the micro iDSD out which is starting this week, then we can clear the decks.

The next project is the iFi Retro and then mini iDSD come a little after that. So by all means, chime in and we'll speed this up closer to the time!

Thanks

Might I ask what iFi Retro is? iFi products are getting more interesting everyday.

The Ear did a short news piece on it:

http://www.the-ear.net/news/ifi-retro-stereo-30

You can find out more about iFi products and developments from their facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/iFiAudio

 

[audiofrk]

Are you considering using the same dac for the mini as the micro or will you be attempting to use the dsd1792a(I believe the micro uses a dsd1793) in quad configuration?

Also I read that on a different forum that the headphone amp will be a 4watt tubular class A amp but I'm not sure where they got that information from.

 

[iFi audio]

Are you considering using the same dac for the mini as the micro or will you be attempting to use the dsd1792a(I believe the micro uses a dsd1793) in quad configuration?

Also I read that on a different forum that the headphone amp will be a 4watt tubular class A amp but I'm not sure where they got that information from.

 
Hi,
 
We prefer to the sonics of the 1793. So nope, the 1792A is not going in.
 
Thanks

 

[audiofrk]

Hi,

We prefer to the sonics of the 1793. So nope, the 1792A is not going in.

Thanks

Ok thanks for the reply is there anything in particular that stands out in the dsd1793

 

[technobear]

Hi,

We prefer to the sonics of the 1793. So nope, the 1792A is not going in.

Thanks

Ok thanks for the reply is there anything in particular that stands out in the dsd1793

Yes. It's sound quality (as has been stated already many many times) :rolleyes:

 

[iFi audio]

Ok thanks for the reply is there anything in particular that stands out in the dsd1793

 
We covered a lot of this over on the Crowd-Design thread for the micro iDSD.
 
And just added this today on the nano iDSD thread (go back a few pages and a lot becomes evident)
http://www.head-fi.org/t/683406/ifi-audio-nano-idsd-announced/690#post_10674238
 
All these mean we are divulging technology we have developed that is the limit of what we can say without giving away our trade secrets.
 
Hope you understand we cant say more.

 

[technobear]

EraserXIV just posted these on the micro iDSD thread:






I can see a few features missing here.

Most alarming is the lack of an optical TOSLINK socket. Just about every modern TV, PVR, DVD, Blu-Ray, Set top box, etc. has an optical output. Many of them ONLY have an optical output. BIG mistake to leave this out of a device that is intended for the home.

I also don't see:

XBASS (level *, ** and *** please)

3D (and crossfeed please)

Polarity Invert

Gain matching of some kind for the headphones

Filter selection

Pre-amp bypass

Some of these might be hidden as the silver screw and the gold watsit on the back. It's not clear what those are.

I see the variable XBASS as being completely essential for this device. Otherwise it will just be one more in a sea of hundreds of 'me too' DAC/headphone amps that I'm never gonna buy because they have no bass control. You might argue that anyone who wants tone control will have it on their amp already. I disagree. This device is also a pre-amp and could be connected to a power amp, monoblocks or even active speakers. The XBASS needs to be there.

 

[iFi audio]

EraserXIV just posted these on the micro iDSD thread:






I can see a few features missing here.

Most alarming is the lack of an optical TOSLINK socket. Just about every modern TV, PVR, DVD, Blu-Ray, Set top box, etc. has an optical output. Many of them ONLY have an optical output. BIG mistake to leave this out of a device that is intended for the home.

I also don't see:

XBASS (level *, ** and *** please)

3D (and crossfeed please)

Polarity Invert

Gain matching of some kind for the headphones

Filter selection

Pre-amp bypass

Some of these might be hidden as the silver screw and the gold watsit on the back. It's not clear what those are.

I see the variable XBASS as being completely essential for this device. Otherwise it will just be one more in a sea of hundreds of 'me too' DAC/headphone amps that I'm never gonna buy because they have no bass control. You might argue that anyone who wants tone control will have it on their amp already. I disagree. This device is also a pre-amp and could be connected to a power amp, monoblocks or even active speakers. The XBASS needs to be there.

 
Cool your boots!
 
This is only the render of the prototype we had at shows.
 
Looks like we're gonna run another Crowd-Design thread for this puppy too.
 
Keep the comments coming because we do read each and every comment.
 
For sake of completeness, initially, we plan to have:
 
1) Micro iDSD
 
2) Micro iCAN
 
3) Micro iTUBE
 
They are likely to have some overlap on features such as XBass because we always try to make them modular yet also standalone.
 
Ta.

 

[wotef]

Wotcher, iFi guys! I currently use the iUSB, iLink, iPurifier, Gemini and Mercury cables (phew) so am a fan of your products.
 
This thread is getting a bit hard to follow - maybe you could create new crowd-source design threads as appropriate?
 
I think I read you are planning the mini iTube. I tried the micro iTube but really couldn't give up balanced operation in my system.
 
So for the mini iTube, here's my wishlist:
1. balanced and single-ended inputs and outputs
2. bass management - active crossover & isolated subwoofer outputs!!!
3. remote control for...everything!
4. external power supply upgrade option (better than the wall-wart)
5. keep it cheap 

 
Cheers

 

[EraserXIV]

 
For sake of completeness, initially, we plan to have:
 
1) Micro iDSD
 
2) Micro iCAN
 
3) Micro iTUBE
 

 
I think you mean Mini iDSD, Mini iCAN, and Mini iTUBE 

.

 

[audiofrk]

If your taking suggestions for the ifi mini line here's mine

Idsd mini:
Pure dac, no headphone stage. Focus only on the making the best digital to analog conversion. Switchable digital filters (bit perfect, etc) clean line out (in other words keep doing what your doing for your line out)

Itube:
Allow tube rolling (while I know that ifi won't Gip us on the tube being able to tube roll will make it so much more competitive and allow us to try to better match our systems), xbass and 3d holographic sound (with selectable quantities) for speakers, digital antidote (if the idsd mini can't fix compressed music short comings)

Ican mini:
Class a amp, balance inputs and outputs (headphone), xbass an 3d sound for headphones

Reasoning: I would advice against trying to stuff as much as possible in one device if for no other reason than to keep cost as low as possible. If the saying "the inmates are running the asylum" was true for any company it would be ifi as any suggestions that was given for the micro idsd was seen as a green flag by the amr/ifi engineers to put it in (which don't get me wrong was great and it really made me a fan of the company as you responded to each customer timely), made the device significantly more expensive than its predecessor the idac. Thought all those features did make me think of using the idsd micro in ways I didn't originally, it kind of had a lot of over lap with the original irack setup and I now have little reason to expand to the full rack (though the irack should have some sonic improvements over the idsd micro the jump in cost won't really justify it). Thus I don't really see the reason for this feature stuffing on the desktop version as we have space to build the best setup. If I'm being unclear my thinking goes a little like this I don't want to pay more for the idsd mini to have a headphone section if the ican mini can do it better. I don't want to pay for the xbass and 3d sound out of the line out on the idsd if the iTube can do it better. Hope I made some sense.

 

[iFi audio]

   
I think you mean Mini iDSD, Mini iCAN, and Mini iTUBE 

.

 
Yes, it is pretty hectic right now.
 
Nice spot!

 

[Esprit]

Will have the Mini iDSD the same or better specs than Micro iDSD?
Reading post #2 it seems to me "limited".
I'm thinking to buy NOW a Micro in order to upgrade to Mini (only if I'll get from Mini "DSD512 & PCM768").