IEM's and air pressure inside the ears

[Santamaria]

You can pierce a hole in any silicon tip. This little hole will not affect the noise cancelling but will let the pressure to equalize no matter how deep you pushed your iem. I've been using this for a decade because my left ear somehow tries to reject the iem and removes the bass in several minutes of listening to vacuum iems. This never happens with iems that has vents in them.

The pierced hole should be in the right place so your ear will not close it (for spin fits you can pierce from inside through the place that makes spinfits what they are). Also after this you should remember which of 2 tips is pierced and not to tear them apart while removing.

It helps me, but may be no help for you, you should understand that you can waste your ear tip. The point is that this little hole closes by itself when there is no pressure or it is not enough to escape, that is why it doesn't affect the noise cancelling. Use this advise at your own risk. Also give your iem a moment for this hole to work, since it is small and closed by itself it works not instantly but very mildly. I have never pierced 2 holes, 1 was always enough.

Let me know if that helped someone, I would be happy. Because this issue driven me mad and I would pay for this solution back in a day

It has worked just fine for me with spinfits and final A8000.
GRATEFUL

 

[boodi]

Slightly OT but might find a follow up here..

I noticed that almost with any iem ( totl iem the most ) the sound changes significantly when , once iem tips are inserted in the ear canal and seal done- , I push the front iem in the frontal direction ( towards / cheeks direction ) .
The stage opens slightly voices are somewhat more natural base tightens and midbass bloom lightens..not much bass impact loss really.

Pleasant effect , probably due to my ear anatomy and eardrum position not being aligned with nozzles when the tips are inserted amd seal is done.

Unfortunately as i release them , they get naturally back to the tip / seal 'natural' more ortogonal angle , and the sound changes back ; it is likely the nozzle direction is not perfectly matched to my eardrum in this way .

Anyone tried or experienced a same situation?



Normal

Pushed front

 

[553981]

You can pierce a hole in any silicon tip...

This looks like a nice and simple solution for non-vented IEMs.

 

[KopaneDePooj]

Slightly OT but might find a follow up here..

I noticed that almost with any iem ( totl iem the most ) the sound changes significantly when , once iem tips are inserted in the ear canal and seal done- , I push the front iem in the frontal direction ( towards / cheeks direction ) .
The stage opens slightly voices are somewhat more natural base tightens and midbass bloom lightens..not much bass impact loss really.

Pleasant effect , probably due to my ear anatomy and eardrum position not being aligned with nozzles when the tips are inserted amd seal is done.

Unfortunately as i release them , they get naturally back to the tip / seal 'natural' more ortogonal angle , and the sound changes back ; it is likely the nozzle direction is not perfectly matched to my eardrum in this way .

Anyone tried or experienced a same situation?



Normal

Pushed front

Have you tried spinfits?
https://spinfit-eartip.com

 

[boodi]

Have you tried spinfits?
https://spinfit-eartip.com

Not still
Does it work better in directioning the nozzle output rightly and towards eardrum ..?

Which one should I get?

Thanks appreciated

 

[KopaneDePooj]

Not still
Does it work better in directioning the nozzle output rightly and towards eardrum ..?

Which one should I get?

Thanks appreciated

I didn't use spinfits myself, it just rang a bell because they seem to address the exact issue you're describing. Maybe others can chime in.

 

[Maximiliano Campo]

You can pierce a hole in any silicon tip. This little hole will not affect the noise cancelling but will let the pressure to equalize no matter how deep you pushed your iem. I've been using this for a decade because my left ear somehow tries to reject the iem and removes the bass in several minutes of listening to vacuum iems. This never happens with iems that has vents in them.

The pierced hole should be in the right place so your ear will not close it (for spin fits you can pierce from inside through the place that makes spinfits what they are). Also after this you should remember which of 2 tips is pierced and not to tear them apart while removing.

It helps me, but may be no help for you, you should understand that you can waste your ear tip. The point is that this little hole closes by itself when there is no pressure or it is not enough to escape, that is why it doesn't affect the noise cancelling. Use this advise at your own risk. Also give your iem a moment for this hole to work, since it is small and closed by itself it works not instantly but very mildly. I have never pierced 2 holes, 1 was always enough.

Let me know if that helped someone, I would be happy. Because this issue driven me mad and I would pay for this solution back in a day

This is the best advice
You have literally helped an issue I have had for a while with my Westone Mach 70 IEM. The sound is the best IEM I have heard and I've been using it with foam tips only because the silicone tips they provide all create a lot of pressure in my ear which ruins the channel balance. No matter how I inserted the silicone tips the same air pressure issue.

I just piece a hole like you've shown in all my silicone tips. And wow! No pressure at all with my Mach 70 silicone tips. I can now enjoy the sound from silicone tips which brings out more detail and transparency.

Thank you so much. This was posted by you years ago I don't know if you will read it, but respect.

 

[ddfcoold]

This was posted by you years ago I don't know if you will read it, but respect.

You are very welcome, friend!

 

[Vamp898]

Sadly did not work for me, at least not for the IEM i've tested. Tested with the IER-M9 and the Shure SE846 but no chance, i insert them, i have Air pressure issues. It seems like the preassure on the earpiece just seales the hole again. If i make it big enough that this does not happen, the sound is very wrong/off.

But it was worth i try, i don't use the silicone anyway^^ so rather destroy them while trying than leaving them untouched.

 

[ddfcoold]

preassure on the earpiece just seales the hole again

Most likely. It also very dependable on the place of hole. I've been using open backs for 2 years and that pressure thing with unvented iems is like a nightmare flashbacks for me) I really happy for people who don't have this issue, and they don't have the slightest idea how lucky they are : )

 

[Vamp898]

Most likely. It also very dependable on the place of hole. I've been using open backs for 2 years and that pressure thing with unvented iems is like a nightmare flashbacks for me) I really happy for people who don't have this issue, and they don't have the slightest idea how lucky they are : )

I just use foam and are done with that issue^^ most closed IEM (at least in the pro world) come with foam pre-installed anyway. The SE846 even comes with COMPLY now for both the short and the long earpieces.

I need foam for the isolation anyway, especially the P-Type when im outside. Those are the only earpieces where i can eat/walk without hearing my body noises.

 

[naynay]

I just use foam and are done with that issue^^ most closed IEM (at least in the pro world) come with foam pre-installed anyway. The SE846 even comes with COMPLY now for both the short and the long earpieces.

I need foam for the isolation anyway, especially the P-Type when im outside. Those are the only earpieces where i can eat/walk without hearing my body noises.

Comply P-Series are great on Shure SE846 that is what I use on mine, nothing gets near them for seal and comfort.

 

[Vamp898]

Comply P-Series are great on Shure SE846 that is what I use on mine, nothing gets near them for seal and comfort.

For Universal IEM, yes. But in terms of Comfort, a Custom is probably unbeat.

 

[naynay]

For Universal IEM, yes. But in terms of Comfort, a Custom is probably unbeat.

Custom are not for my ears tried them and were not great.

 

[Vamp898]

Custom are not for my ears tried them and were not great.

There are quite a lot of different makers. Some are better as others, that is true. There are some makers who even have soft silicone as material for their custom shells.

What issues did you have?