i'd like to know which marantz unit is the best among 10xx and 22xx series..

[mkmelt]

If you want a model with a rotary balance control, but don't care about the midrange tone control,then consider the 1030 integrated amplifier (like the 1060 but less power, fewer controls) or any of the following receivers 2215,2220, or 2230 would be good choices.

If you want both a rotary balance control and the midrange control, then your best bet would be the 1060 integrated amplifier or the 2230 receiver.

The midrange tone control is one of those features that was common on 70s gear that was later dropped to keep costs down. The benefit of the midrange tone control is two-fold. It gives you the ability to tweak the midrange response (the Marantz mid-range control is centered at 700 Hz). With three tone controls, the bass control turnover frequency is usually chosen to be lower, at say 50Hz, and the treble control turnover frequency to be 15KHz.

Many times, when there are only two tone controls, the bass control turnover frequency is raised to 150Hz or even higher, and the treble control is lowered to perhaps 8KHz. This type of bass control is useless for compensating for a given speaker's bass response in the lowest range without also mucking up the midbass.

 

[boodi]

i've got this scale of needs

first one : bass (that is extended bass response )
second : resolution ( that is details -vs smothness) [size=xx-small]

I noticed in marantz bass and res. go opposite way[/size] :
third : not sibiling / hard do hear floor noise
forth : capable of driving low watt speakers

(five : midtone eq control nob / lever it's really the LAST problem )

tuner is nothing but an extra

I know 1060 amp it's not suit for me ,I read somewhere it lacks bass extension vs 1070

 

[mkmelt]

Don't be put off by the bass response of the 1060 amplifier. The bass performance is very good and actually extends lower than most tube amplifiers that use output transformers.

Only in direct comparison with a direct-coupled output stage design such as found in the 1070 and 2235B is the slight bass rolloff below 40Hz even noticable.

Some things to consider:

There is very little recorded music that contains deep bass lower than approximately 40 Hz.

I have listened to a pair of HD-600 with the 1060 using a signal generator and an oscilloscope and found that while I could hear output down to 32 Hz, there was no audible response below this frequency, at least in my setup to my ears. (Note: the 2-channel oscilloscope showed both the input signal and the output from the Marantz amplifier, so I know the amplifier was not the limiting factor here.)

If you get a 1060 or a 2230, and decide you don't like it, you should be able to sell it in Italy for at least as much if not more than you paid.

 

[boodi]

Quote:

Originally posted by mkmelt If you get a 1060 or a 2230, and decide you don't like it, you should be able to sell it in Italy for at least as much if not more than you paid.

mmm selling this kind of stuff in italy it's realtively difficult -
anyway i'm not sure 1060 low frq. lacking is not audible ... some one did direct comparison and said it's easy audible

I'd go no problem with 1070 if i knew there are no other marantz better overall performer

 

[mkmelt]

It might have been my comment about a comparison, since as far as I know I am the only Head-Fi member who owns both the 1060 and 1070 amplifiers.

I've said all I am going to say on this subject. You have all the information, the rest is up to you. Good luck with whatever you decide.

 

[boodi]

thanks , really

 

[MichaelFranks]

I purchased a 1060 and have been nothing but happy with it. I was nothing but happy with the 2230 I purchased at nearly the same time too (don't ask), but the 1060 was smaller and had a wooden case I like so I kept it instead. The 2230 has a beautiful display but I don't need another tuner so I sold off the 2230 for what I paid for it.

As mkmelt has said they are both very similar. The 1060 will probably be cheaper, and you said you don't need a tuner. The 1060 would be a bit easier to ship as well.

You should try to buy one that is in great working condition, the extra cost could save you headaches and repair expenses down the road.

I decided to test out the bass response on the 1060 with some bottom heavy Squarepusher recordings. Some of the super low notes were slightly less distinguishable, but overall it isn't lacking IMO. The equalizer controls can provide a little extra bump but it is easy to overdo. I never listen with it turned up past 8:00.

Anyway, I think that as long as you invest in a solid unit, you won't be dissapointed with either

 

[boodi]

what cans have you paired it with ?
have you compared it with other combinations ( HP + amp ) ?

and last had 1060 and 2230 identical sonic signature or not ?

 

[boodi]

bump
anyway i'll take a marantz ( justfor my biget needs

)
and i'm going to power dt990 and sony cd3000 soon

any experience welcome on this board

 

[boodi]

bump
anyway i'll take a marantz ( for my budget needs )
because i'm going to power dt990 and sony cd3000 soon

any experience welcome on this board

 

[sleepkyng]

hey boodi
i have a 2226b with the mosfet headphone amp in it.

would you be interested?