I have been insulted by someone of great intellect and i feel like trash. How should i react to this?

Jun 19, 2011 at 3:03 PM Post #16 of 92
I think that 'he' had a rather high-handed tone in his advice to you. I can't say rather or not it's true, as I don't know you very well; only you can really be the judge of its truth. If your self-examination leads you to the conclusion that he's right, and you don't enjoy being this way, then you certainly should attempt to change your outlook. Changing one's outlook isn't easy, of course.
 
What works for me (and I can't say if it would work for anyone other than me) is simply not focusing on the bad. I don't mean ignoring or denying that there are things, even very major things, wrong with the world. But if you can't change these bad things (even if just for now), then you aren't helping anything by letting the rotten parts of the world color your perception of the whole world. Letting a bright spot in the world (you) be darkened by cynicism just makes the world a darker place. Focus on the things in life that are good; you have friends you like, probably audio gear you like. More things, I'm sure. Just focus on the things that are good until you can change the things that aren't.
 
Hopefully you'll find something that works for you and you can stop feeling bad.
 
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Also; we should try to keep the discussion free of any references to religion, negative or positive. Religious discussion is a violation of forum rules.
 
Jun 19, 2011 at 3:07 PM Post #17 of 92


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I think that 'he' had a rather high-handed tone in his advice to you. I can't say rather or not it's true, as I don't know you very well; only you can really be the judge of its truth. If your self-examination leads you to the conclusion that he's right, and you don't enjoy being this way, then you certainly should attempt to change your outlook. Changing one's outlook isn't easy, of course.
 
What works for me (and I can't say if it would work for anyone other than me) is simply not focusing on the bad. I don't mean ignoring or denying that there are things, even very major things, wrong with the world. But if you can't change these bad things (even if just for now), then you aren't helping anything by letting the rotten parts of the world color your perception of the whole world. Letting a bright spot in the world (you) be darkened by cynicism just makes the world a darker place. Focus on the things in life that are good; you have friends you like, probably audio gear you like. More things, I'm sure. Just focus on the things that are good until you can change the things that aren't.
 
Hopefully you'll find something that works for you and you can stop feeling bad.
 
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Also; we should try to keep the discussion free of any references to religion, negative or positive. Religious discussion is a violation of forum rules.


i agree this post was not meant to be a hate on religion thread.
 
 
Jun 19, 2011 at 6:07 PM Post #18 of 92
What is this? It sounds like a spat between lovers or something. Who cares what someone else thinks of you?

Anyhow, don't get too worked up about the Human Condition. It's been like this for thousands of years. Nothing is going to change, no one is going to change it, and it doesn't really matter anyhow.

Life may very well be absurd, cruel and ultimately pointless.

But you can still have a few drinks and a little fun while you still can.
 
Jun 19, 2011 at 7:08 PM Post #19 of 92
I think you ought not to dwell on it. Besides, by the time you get a good comeback (that is, assuming you do), it'll just be un esprit d'escalier.
 
Jun 19, 2011 at 7:46 PM Post #20 of 92
Quite ironic while listening to ELP's "Take A Pebble" and "Knife-Edge" I find this thread. In general I am not very positive about the human reality but I prefer the Pythonesque approach: sometimes life just is absurd and all you can do is to laugh, cry or walk away. The world is a silly place to be. "The Three Fates" by ELP is now playing...
 
Jun 19, 2011 at 9:52 PM Post #21 of 92
Temporal and provincial angst. We get it like blistering acne during formative years. I think it's just about what UE said.
 
You're alive now, you need to reconcile stuff, you need to feel different. Blah blah blah........
 
My advice: The faster you make through dorky doldrums, the better off you are.
 
 
 
 
 
Jun 19, 2011 at 10:00 PM Post #22 of 92
Weird/What thtead = Subscribed. :rolleyes:
 
Jun 20, 2011 at 2:25 AM Post #23 of 92
1.  Get over it.
 
2.  Grow up.
 
3.  Learn to talk trash like he/she does.
 
4.  What does it matter anyway?
 
Jun 20, 2011 at 3:24 AM Post #25 of 92
Yep, outrage and angst over awful things in life are fashionable during teenage years.

Also, dwelling on stuff is the number one cause of misery. Don't do it.

Skip the rebellion part, too. It's a complete waste of time. Do what has to be done (school, paying bills, taking out the garbage, etc.) and spend the rest of your time doing what interests you. It doesn't matter if other people are doing the same thing and it's totally OK to enjoy mainstream stuff.

Life goes by fast, so go have some fun. Take a little care not to make other people miserable, but mostly focus on having a good time.

 
Jun 20, 2011 at 4:39 AM Post #26 of 92


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i have been here for 6 months and i believe you can understand me and know enough about me. to answer this question and maybe pondering hope. do you think he may be right. this guy has a massively high intellect and made valid points. even ones i don't know how to counteract. i feel like piss
 
 
 
heres the conversation
 
him: It's how you look at the world. So easily pessimistic to the nature of people, rebelling against the way the world is because you don't like your own situation, choosing non-conformity not because you want to be you regardless of everyone else but because you want to be their opposite, wanting an entirely different world because you can't make your own the way you want it to be.

You have formed most of your personality around rebellion, and it kills me inside almost every time you are driven to open your mouth as speak because I hear it in almost every word.
I didn't want to say that because you either would say 'You don't know anything about me' as always, or just get to the point where you're like, 'You're Christian, I have no respect for you now'
 
me:i wouldnt say that
 
him:Just the way you think and say things all the time in this way destroys me, and whenever I mention it you get angry.
You did
 
him:Both of those
You said them
Those were your exact words
When you found out
'I have now lost all respect for you'
 
me:look nothing will change the fact i think the world is rotten
 
him:And almost everything you say is based around this
And I hate every word of it because I can see the poison that eats you alive
 
me:poison that eats me alive?
 
him:That is why, not because of disliking you, but because of the sadness and pain I feel for you all the time
I don't want to get into what I said anymore
But that's your answer
 
 
my problem is this guy is very knowledgeable in many topics from psychology to physics to mathematics. everything he said could be backed up with multiple evidence. thinsg he said could be interpreted in certain ways yet he chooses this. and now i am left thinking if he is right or not. am i really this screwed. the reason i hate humanity is because of what i see every day. people being killed. famine disease. war. poverty, the rich abusing the weak etc. any responses to this would be highly appreciated.



I think he just finds your pessimism very disheartening and wishes for you to enjoy life without getting caught up in the bad. I see from your point of view, I was of the same mindset for a long while, but that has changed and I too look back at it in disgust.
 
Jun 20, 2011 at 11:26 AM Post #28 of 92
Lazurus and UE's first post sums it up.
 
 
 
 
 

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