Hugo M Scaler by Chord Electronics - The Official Thread

[Triode User]

Wave founder has done such experiment, not HMS to HMS but blu2 to HMS, the outcome was don't bother

'Wave founder', is that me?

If so I don't recollect doing that experiment nor does it seem like something I would want to try.

 

[118900]

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[118900]

not sure if this has been asked before -- wouldn't shouldn't multiple M-Scalers work? M-Scaler outputs digital which could feed into another M-Scaler, right?

I very much doubt it. I’m pretty sure it doesn’t simply “upscale” whatever is input ad infinitum regardless of its sampling rate but, rather, is limited to 768 (or whatever the precise figure is) as a maximum output.

I’m sure that if it were to receive a 768 input it would just pass it through without further upscaling, which is the maximum sampling rate chord DACs support anyway.

Surely having six tyres won’t make your car any faster than 4 tyres if the speed is dictated by the power of the engine.

 

[MatW]

Surely having six tyres won’t make your car any faster than 4 tyres if the speed is dictated by the power of the engine.

Not an engineer but I guess six tyres would make it go slower - more weight and resistance... I get the analogy though...

 

[118900]

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[dac64]

'Wave founder', is that me?

If so I don't recollect doing that experiment nor does it seem like something I would want to try.

Oh! It's not you! I did read these experimental by a guy who owned both blu2 and HMS in this thread.

 

[Amberlamps]

'Wave founder', is that me?

If so I don't recollect doing that experiment nor does it seem like something I would want to try.

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Dude, whats with all the deleted posts, is your middle name p2q ?

 

[118900]

Dude, whats with all the deleted posts, is your middle name p2q ?

Unfortunately I am unable to physically just “delete” them so I’m stuck with that method, and no, for all my quirks I haven’t quite reached his level.

 

[Amberlamps]

Unfortunately I am unable to physically just “delete” them so I’m stuck with that method, and no, for all my quirks I haven’t quite reached his level.

But why delete them all ?

Just leave them as is, don’t worry if somebody gets butt hurt about them, your input is as good as everyone elses, with the exception of my ones, as I make genius posts.

 

[118900]

But why delete them all ?

Just leave them as is, don’t worry if somebody gets butt hurt about them, your input is as good as everyone elses, with the exception of my ones, as I make genius posts.

I private messaged you about it. No point in dragging it out here.

 

[118900]

I’m hoping to be “lent” an Mscaler in the not too distant future and if so I will be able to verify for myself what all the fuss is about and post my views.

 

[JohnA1]

I prey it is faulty hardware, since the setup appears to be OK - well the colours tally.

I've been a HiFi enthusiast for over 40 years, I believe there's no way I would fail to notice even one of the SQ changes everyone here claims.
I *wanted* to be impressed, so even placebo didn't do it lol..

Right, got an update on my "is the scaler effect audible?" question

Had it hooked up for 3 weeks now and for the life of me couldn't hear *any* difference on any of the four upsampling levels. None. Zip.

Before sending it back, I let a pianist friend of mine experiment with the 'OP SR' button, mainly on minimalist piano recordings (RB and 192)
The resolution lights on the Scaler and Qutest were covered with black tape, so neither of us knew what they were until I'd peek to note the result.

After a couple of minutes of familiarization he could tell which level was which, bang on every time.
We quickly established that the scaler works - I have not a defective unit and it's neither a placebo delusion [sorry Rob, had to entertain that scenario as well lol]
He also couldn't stand any of the filters on any of the levels, apart from the incisive neutral. (I had been using the green one as per Rob's writings)

The reason it took a pianist to tell what is what is apparently a lot down to my Martin Logan panels having lost their sparkle (high frequencies appear 5-15db down on REW!)
A musician's ear could tell despite the (I know now) muffled sound, and remembers the MLs when I fist bought them 13 years ago and had exceptional clarity at high frequencies.

Result: Scaler stays and more money to spend addressing the speakers now..

 

[118900]

Wh

Right, got an update on my "is the scaler effect audible?" question

Had it hooked up for 3 weeks now and for the life of me couldn't hear *any* difference on any of the four upsampling levels. None. Zip.

Before sending back, I let a pianist friend of mine experiment with the 'OP SR' button, mainly on minimalist piano recordings (RB and 192)
The resolution lights on the scaler and qutest were covered with black tape, so neither of us knew what they were until I'd peek to note the result.

After a couple of minutes of familiarization he could tell which level was which, bang on every time.
We quickly established that the scaler works - I have not a defective unit and it's neither a placebo delusion [sorry Rob, had to entertain that scenario as well lol]
He also couldn't stand any of the filters on any of the levels, apart from the incisive neutral. (I had been using the green one as per Rob's writings)

The reason it took a pianist to tell what is what is apparently a lot down to my Martin Logan panels having lost their sparkle (high frequencies appear 5-15db down on REW!)
A musician's ear could tell despite the (I know now) muffled sound, and remembers the MLs when I fist bought them 13 years ago and had exceptional clarity at high frequencies.

Result: Scaler stays and more money to spend addressing the speakers now..

Whats wrong with the speakers? Is it normal/a known issue that they did that?

having said all that, you could just sell off your entire set up and replace it with a cheapo transistor radio, I mean if you can’t tell a 15 dB drop in the HF of your speakers why splash out all that money for that kind of gear?

 

[mammal]

Whats wrong with the speakers? Is it normal/a known issue that they did that?

Not sure if normal or a known issue, but when I was buying my Martin Logans the seller told me that he just had them serviced and they replaced the electrostat panels on them, they weren't defective, just "old", whatever that means.

 

[118900]

Not sure if normal or a known issue, but when I was buying my Martin Logans the seller told me that he just had them serviced and they replaced the electrostat panels on them, they weren't defective, just "old", whatever that means.

I do know that humidity does nasty things to the stator units in the long term. I keep my electrostatic HPs in their carrying case with silica gel bags to ensure the humidity stays low, something you obviously cannot do with speakers.