[801evan]

Hot damn. I didn’t even notice the 50ohm BNC connector. You will get some reflection with higher harmonics of 768khz. (Say 10th harmonic) and somewhat long cable (say 3 meters).

Definitely a head scratcher.

Dave has the correct 75ohm connector. What was Chord thinking putting a 50ohm incompatible BNC connector on Mscaler

Theoretical but doesn't matter in the whole scheme of things.

 

[chesebert]

Theoretical but doesn't matter in the whole scheme of things.

You will now wonder what it mscaler had the right BNC connectors and all reflections were eliminated. What it could have been …

 

[AndrewOld]

The claim was correct, but given the typical length of the cables, it was deemed immaterial to performance.

Does that then mean that WAVE cables and others are incorrectly terminated at one end? (When being used with an MScaler).

 

[chesebert]

Does that then mean that WAVE cables and others are incorrectly terminated at one end?

I believe you need to have the same impedance on both ends to avoid reflection and power loss.

 

[griff500]

But why intentionally creating rounded square wave when it’s not called for? now you will never know if mscaler can sound better with correct BNC connectors.

You tried to make an issue of the connector not being suitable for 768Khz and when it was pointed out that each cable is not carrying that you still try to present it as an issue... Even Amir didn't stretch quite that far with the connector 'issue'. Is the connector not suitable for 384Khz?

 

[801evan]

You will now wonder what it mscaler had the right BNC connectors and all reflections were eliminated. What it could have been …

It really doesn't matter. Gee, my 1ft twisted pair bnc beats out all these 'to spec' bnc cables. And longer to spec ones sound worse than shorter. In theory it makes sense but that's as far as it remains.

It's likes this, while it may matters, there's much much bigger fishes to fry before getting your pitchforks out for this.

 

[AndrewOld]

I believe you need to have the same impedance on both ends to avoid reflection and power loss.

If you look back on this thread you will find many instances where people had problems with the supplied cables in that they were very sensitive to touching. Might the incorrect connector on the M Scaler have contributed to this?

 

[chesebert]

You tried to make an issue of the connector not being suitable for 768Khz and when it was pointed out that each cable is not carrying that you still try to present it as an issue... Even Amir didn't stretch quite that far with the connector 'issue'. Is the connector not suitable for 384Khz?

You paid $5500 for a premium digital product. I think you should have higher standard.

 

[griff500]

If you look back on this thread you will find many instances where people had problems with the supplied cables in that they were very sensitive to touching. Might the incorrect connector on the M Scaler have contributed to this?

Or the cables aren’t great. Hard to say.

 

[griff500]

You paid $5500 for a premium digital product. I think you should have higher standard.

That response doesn’t answer the question and so I guess it actually doesn’t matter and you are just desperately trying to find issues.

 

[chesebert]

That response doesn’t answer the question and so I guess it actually doesn’t matter and you are just desperately trying to find issues.

Of course it matters. Just do the math using higher order harmonics of a square wave.

 

[griff500]

Of course it matters. Just do the math using higher order harmonics of a square wave.

So you are saying that the connector used is insufficient for the maximum signal that would be passed through it?

 

[chesebert]

So you are saying that the connector used is insufficient for the maximum signal that would be passed through it?

Yes you will not get the maximum/best possible signal with mismatched connectors. You can ask Rob.

 

[griff500]

Yes you will not get the maximum/best possible signal with mismatched connectors. You can ask Rob.

Ok. @Rob Watts - is there anything to this?

 

[griff500]

If you look back on this thread you will find many instances where people had problems with the supplied cables in that they were very sensitive to touching. Might the incorrect connector on the M Scaler have contributed to this?

Out of curiosity, why do you say the connector is 'incorrect'. Is it not suitable for the signal being passed through it? I'm not looking to make any particular point - I'm just interested in whether there is a reason you used that particular word.