How's this for a new computer of mine?

[raymondlin]

How about this AMD?

I didn't go 64bit AMD at first is because Intel is always good for video encoding, and pure number crunching.

 

[raymondlin]

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Originally Posted by wallijonn Ray, You should read the links I provided, buddy. I went through a lot of trouble to break it down to the pound. Why not buy PC6000 mem? It's your money. But I figure that your setup will be slower than the faster 3.4C or AMD 3500 in a 939. .

thanks, i'll read them now, and i never knew they make PC6000 memory

 

[ayt999]

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Originally Posted by wallijonn it'll be a year before the 64 bit Prescotts come out and WXP64. The 939 dual proc boards should be out soon.

what does the 939 signify? if it is the socket pin count, I don't think I've heard anything from intel about a dual CPU board with that. if you have any links, please post it for me since I am interested.

but as wallijonn states, it would be a good idea to wait a while if possible since there are a lot of new standards being introduced right now such as the PCI-Express and new CPU architectures. there isn't a large selection of motherboards that suppport it yet, and there is also a possibility that the current ones will be obsolete faster than most others due to a possible change in socket standards and also there's the thing about DDR2 (not to be confused with dual channel DDR, DCDDR) being introduced sometime in the future.

 

[ayt999]

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Originally Posted by raymondlin How about this AMD? I didn't go 64bit AMD at first is because Intel is always good for video encoding, and pure number crunching.

there's a slight problem of putting a 754 pin Athlon-64 into a 939 pin socket.

it just won't work.

 

[wallijonn]

ayt999,

the 939 is the amd 939 pin dual channel using unbuffered DIMMS.

here's the link for the dual core 939 ( not dual cpu mobo slots):
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=17262
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...618024759.html

Here's some 939 mobos against the 915 and 925dx:
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2128
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It was difficult to resist being a little sensationalist in this 939 roundup and titling the review, "Who needs 925X?" That would have been a fair title, however, since you can clearly see that all of the Socket 939/FX53 boards completely outperform Intel's top 560 on the top 925X motherboard. Even Media Encoding, the last bastion of Intel dominance, is now a dead heat with the new AutoGK benchmark.

 

[raymondlin]

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Originally Posted by ayt999 there's a slight problem of putting a 754 pin Athlon-64 into a 939 pin socket. it just won't work.

opps, will change it now

 

[GokieKS]

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Originally Posted by ayt999 what does the 939 signify? if it is the socket pin count, I don't think I've heard anything from intel about a dual CPU board with that. if you have any links, please post it for me since I am interested. but as wallijonn states, it would be a good idea to wait a while if possible since there are a lot of new standards being introduced right now such as the PCI-Express and new CPU architectures. there isn't a large selection of motherboards that suppport it yet, and there is also a possibility that the current ones will be obsolete faster than most others due to a possible change in socket standards and also there's the thing about DDR2 (not to be confused with dual channel DDR, DCDDR) being introduced sometime in the future.

Socket 939 is the new standard platform for AMD's Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 FX processors, replacing Socket 940 (which will be used for Opterons). Socket 754 will live on for the K8-based Semprons, the new value range, which (confusingly) encompasses both the former AXP (K7-based) line and a new small-cache K8 line...

As for raymondlin's system: If you know you want a Prescott (and I don't deny that there are reasons why you might), it's a perfectly acceptable setup.

If you're going A64, on the other hand, wait a bit for good nForce 3 250Gb boards - DFI's offering, especially, look like they will be incredible and more than able to carry on the success of their nForce 2 LanParty/Infinity boards. You should probably get the 3500+ to go with it (or if you're going all out, FX-53/FX-55

)

~KS

 

[ayt999]

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Originally Posted by wallijonn ayt999, the 939 is the amd 939 pin dual channel using unuffered DIMMS. here's the link for the dual core 939 ( not dual cpu mobo slots): http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=17262

ya, I know that.

I got confused when you mentioned the Prescott in the previous sentence then went on to talk about a dual processor socket 939 motherboard.

wouldn't it then be a dual core single processor setup still?

 

[ayt999]

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Originally Posted by GokieKS Socket 939 is the new standard platform for AMD's Athlon 64 and Athlon 64 FX processors, replacing Socket 940 (which will be used for Opterons). Socket 754 will live on for the K8-based Semprons, the new value range, which (confusingly) encompasses both the former AXP (K7-based) line and a new small-cache K8 line...

I know... I read too many tech sites.

as I said above, I got confused with the wording.

 

[wallijonn]

Sorry for the confusion. I just assumed that Ray knew about the amd 939.

But is great to speak to other geeks and techs.

Dang, Ray, did you start typeing at 5 in the morning?

 

[raymondlin]

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Originally Posted by wallijonn Sorry for the confusion. I just assumed that Ray knew about the amd 939. But is great to speak to other geeks and techs. Dang, Ray, did you start typeing at 5 in the morning?

I've been out of the computer "loop" since i got my desktop 2 years ago, i know that DDR2, PCI-E, 64bit CPU...etc is all coming out around now, thats why i am looking into it now, instead of 2/3 months ago. But it looks like i should wait another 2/3 months for it to settle down first.

As for the early post, i actually posted it 6 hours ago, went to bed, woke up after 4 hours and couldn't sleep so came back on here.

 

[wallijonn]

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Originally Posted by raymondlin As for the early post, i actually posted it 6 hours ago, went to bed, woke up after 4 hours and couldn't sleep so came back on here.

I figured something was amiss.

Check this out, Intel will be coming out with a 3.8E (Prescott) in a 478:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/dis...731144157.html

It would seem that no one wants Prescotts and 925x.

You can follow one's man journey in 925x land here:
http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77159

Here's a 3500 compared to a 3.4 p4:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...on64-3800.html

 

[PinkFloyd]

aren't Dell doing a computer fof around £400 at the moment?

 

[raymondlin]

I guess i'll wait for a 4Ghz Prescott (hopfully all this socket marlakey will settled by then) and Nforce 4 mobo before taking the plunge.

 

[wallijonn]

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Originally Posted by raymondlin I guess i'll wait for a 4Ghz Prescott

Intel will NOT be coming out with a 4.0G this year.

Expect Q4 2005 (July 31 2005).

It's 1 year away. That's why they will be coming out with a 3.8E / 478.

Check for news August 22, 2004.