Quote: Okay now I see what you're getting at. To match the specifications of a CD makes it more like you ripped the CD yourself. If not 1411kbps, then what? If it were not 1411, then I'd say the number is arbitrary. It's just because of the legacy of the CD, and how it's kind of the de-facto standard in music listening (save for SACD and the likes). However, you are wrong about Amazon and iTunes files being superior. They may be from a higher quality source, but that doesn't matter because the file still has the same bit depth and sample rate as the CD. They are most certainly inferior because their bit rate is lower, and they have compression artifacts whether you can hear them or not. Even If Amazon or iTunes sold lossless files from a higher quality source it still wouldn't matter because they'd be 16 bit and 44.1 kHz (Meaning they'd be nearly identical to the CD). They only way for those files to be superior to a CD is if they had a higher bit depth and sample rate, for example www.hdtracks.com The reason why people insist on having lossless audio.. whether it be from a CD or online is merely for peace of mind. I openly admit to the fact that I can't distinguish lossless vs. lossy, but I still like knowing that I have accurate files. It is silly, but it's my choice. I have the space on my HDD to do so.